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this hope radio for the masses headline

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of this new July 8 1947 the Army Air

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the army the game is rigged changed the

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how quickly our differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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is fade to black with your host Jimmy

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need your help to get to the year

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you are listening to fade to black with

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today's Wednesday September 19 2008 een

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266 days into the new year just 99 days

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left we are live from a bunker somewhere

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in the middle of beautiful downtown

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Burbank California and I would like to

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welcome everybody listening all around

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the world all across the United States

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Hitler and Hitler to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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and south far and near

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planets I'm you know Jimmy Church what

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is cracking everybody how you doing how

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you doing good I'm doing pretty good

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that's right cuz we've had an amazing

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week on the show and tonight it

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continues because we have very special

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guest Clifford stone is here that's

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right Clifford stone on disclosure

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that's what we're gonna do tonight and

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he's very excited about our conversation

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now that is about to happen tonight and

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advance as one of our most important

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gonna roll the dice on this right now

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all of the documents every one that we

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are going to discuss tonight on the show

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are over at Jimmy Church radio.com and

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through our flurry there's a lot of

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documents a lot of stuff to do and they

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should all be good to go I didn't check

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right before show time drew was still

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finishing things up but they should all

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be there okay so all of the documents

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later in our podcast application or or

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what else do we do here I guess we do

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click on Clifford's name or search

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Clifford stone later and and go and get

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those documents okay so that's that's

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what you've got to do okay I wonder how

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many people you know because this is a

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that use our podcast or download through

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good sized group I wonder I wonder how

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many actually you know listen on YouTube

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it's had and it's not about YouTube I've

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got some updates on YouTube here coming

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up so just stay posted for that it's

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breaking news let's just get straight to

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it because I'm going to open the show

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with breaking news on Krispy Kreme

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Doughnuts mm-hmm yep Krispy Kreme once

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again once again Krispy Kreme is not

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participating in the Talk Like a Pirate

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yeah in previous years the coffee and

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donut chain celebrated the September

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19th holiday today by giving away free

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donuts the customers who walked in

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dressed like a pirate free donuts taught

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like your favorite pirate free donuts

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not anymore two years in a row

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what a drag and it looks like you know

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I'm gonna have to continue with my fast

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dart diet that I am on yeah lost a lot

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of weight can you tell how do I look

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good look good

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go look at a field trim a field trip I

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mean I kind of look the same right right

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I guess maybe I don't know I don't know

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but I feel know I've lost I've lost a

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lot of weight and I am on the fast start

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diet and you can go and find fast start

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diet over on Amazon and go to their

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website fast are DICOM the links for

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them or over at Jimmy Church radio.com

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three-day diet

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it's a fasting diet but you know

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everybody knows about fasting so this is

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a fast start diet that combines things

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and starts to prepare you for a fasting

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future for yourself and you can figure

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things out but those three days are a

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game-changer they really are they really

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are the first days rough first days

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rough but you just got to get through

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that second day you wake up and you're

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like okay it's it's not going to be that

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bad and then by the end of the third day

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like wow this stuff really really worked

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it's a well-done diet so there you go

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fast our diets a three-day diet

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everything that you need comes in a box

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three days three

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packages day 1 day 2 day 3 it's all

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there and you get there lipo 3 appetite

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suppressants prey 2 as well as a bonus

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because you're a fade or not okay and

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the promo code is Talk Talk

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okay alright my grandma is in playing

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farmville on on stellar that's funny

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that's the other thing about I'm still

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are no advertising no games and nothing

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like that man is so old-school it's

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beautiful on stellar gov yesterday

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Monsanto asked a California judge to

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throw out a two hundred and eighty nine

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million dollar jury verdict awarded to

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Dwayne Johnson not the rock but another

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Dwayne Johnson who said the company's

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glyphosate based weed killers including

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roundup gave him cancer and a jury

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decided that Monsanto was guilty the

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company said in motions filed in San

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that the jury's decision was not

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trial Johnson's case filed in 2016 was

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severity of his non-hodgkins lymphoma a

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cancer of the lymph system that was

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caused by years of exposure to Roundup

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and Ranger Pro another Monsanto

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this is some other big news google has

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youtube gaining that's right I didn't

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more than now check I need you to listen

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YouTube is where more than 200 million

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gamers go every single day 200 million

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of the United States goes to YouTube

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think about that they watched over 50

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billion hours of gaming content in the

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god that's why in March 2019 Google will

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everything over to YouTube and make some

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happy birthday - today Twiggy Twiggy is

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possibility you know I understand it's a

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generational thing Twiggy Slade in the

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Blues Brothers all right a lot of people

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remember her from that but it's not when

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Blues Brothers anymore

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I think of Club Paradise one of my

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favorite funniest movies of all time and

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Twiggy was amazing in that happy

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birthday Twiggy today she is 69 our dead

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guys birthday today

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short and sweet Adam West 1928 - 2017

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made it all the way to the double 8 88

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years old the og Batman

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original gangsta that's it that's all I

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got when it comes Adam was right there

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the oh gee Batman I had still the best

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series it's just like Star Trek

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you know Batman and all of the others -

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III understand that man but that's

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that's not what endeared is to Batman

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you know today now it's the original

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series the original series Robin and

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Catwoman and the Joker right the penguin

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that's that's what man that's Batman

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and it's the same thing with Star Trek

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and I know I get it as Star Trek

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continues oh no okay it's all cool talk

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cool the original Star Trek the original

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series that's that's the Star Trek for

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me okay alright on this date in history

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OTD 1957 the United States detonates a

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1.7 kiloton nuclear weapon 900 feet

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were felt all the way to Alaska on this

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day in 1957 Fader fact stubs was the

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mayor of Talkeetna Alaska from July 1997

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until his death in July of 2017 stubs

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was a cat and that it's your fader fact

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got his own Wikipedia page to stubs the

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cat he was called stubs because the the

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they had a box full of kittens that the

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store owner gave away one kitten was

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left stubs and they named him stubs

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because his tail was short yeah so they

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call them stubs and he became mayor so

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there you go that's a fader fact it's

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been vetted to tonight Clifford stone is

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here we're gonna talk disclosure and now

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all of the documents that we are gonna

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discuss tonight are over at Jimmy Church

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radio.com

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you may download them you may keep them

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you may share them with the world

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Clifford has been to discovering finding

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searching through the Freedom of

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Information Act and his other sources

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for documents for decades and decades

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this is part of his collection of

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documents and these reach back a long

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ways and we're gonna talk about

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disclosure today and did it almost

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happened before okay we're gonna talk

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about this and these are the documents

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too that are gonna support everything

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that we are going to discuss tonight on

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the show it's going to be an amazing

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amazing conversation tomorrow's another

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Fator night open lines all night long

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Jon Rappoport is going to be here where

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there's no more fake newsroom live

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followed by open lines okay so there you

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go it's been a

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in week now listen to me today

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q and on answered this question question

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posted was questions was did NASA faked

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the moon landings have we been to the

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moon since then are there secret space

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programs is this why the space force was

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created and q and on answered with this

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and i quote false moon landings are real

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programs exist that are outside of

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public domain and quote

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signed q now

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Oh as I said that to net just posted up

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some other stuff this is on September

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19th from Q I didn't get to this one to

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net but thank you

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Q are we alone Roswell answer no highest

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classification consider the vastness of

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space q yep

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and now there has been dang you know a

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Mike you know I am NOT Q okay so let's

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let's just clear that up right now

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certainly these are answers that I could

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possibly give but isn't it interesting

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now but through all of the Q stuff I

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have not

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I've only checked Q out when I've been

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sent Q material no no that's not even

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that's not even true but the only Q

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material let me say this correctly the

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only Q material that I have checked out

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is the material that has been sent to me

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today Nuno Bettencourt is 51 years old

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really I took all his money when night

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and poker in Memphis that's a that's a

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whole nother story now I've only checked

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out cue stuff that has been sent to me

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not all of it and I I understand how and

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where it gets posted but that would take

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up that would take up the rest of my

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life let alone the rest of my day

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spending time over there doing it so I

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depend on others to send this stuff to

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me when it's relevant now as far as I

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know and you guys can there's everybody

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knows more about cue than I do okay so

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I'm no cue expert but as far as I know

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is this the first time that cue has

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alluded to a secret space program is

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this the first time that this has

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happened is this the first time cue has

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talked et and aliens and Roswell you

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know and I don't know who is posting the

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questions to queue this are are we alone

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is from anonymous right that's from

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anonymous so I don't know I don't know

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who's I'm not I'm not sending the

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questions in and this other one is from

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anonymous too okay so these were sent to

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me earlier and thank you for posting

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them it has Q done any more has there

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any has there been any other postings

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since these about et or Roswell or the

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secret space program I don't know so if

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they have post them up there in Twitter

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and I'll catch them but anyway this is

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what I find interesting Q I don't have

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any inside information but I have I have

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some pretty dependable sources and one

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in particular that I've talked to about

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Q that I wasn't surprised that this

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person knew about

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you but this person is so outside of our

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UFO community in and so forth but Q out

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there in the mainstream has only caught

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on in the last few weeks right where are

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you getting these mentions of Q in the

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mainstream media and stuff it's always

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been part of our conspiracy community

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but I was told that and I could be way

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wrong here so don't you know just just

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save it if you've got a theory on who Q

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is stick with it okay if you think you

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know you have definitive proof as to who

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Q is or mayor or group or whatever then

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stay with it because you don't know any

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more than I do that's what it comes to

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that is that Q was a singular person

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inside of the White House that's right

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inside of the White House part of the

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administration and then that q is no

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longer posting his q and that now q

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still may have elements inside of the

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White House but it's a group it's now a

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group it's it's it's it's a collective

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not C and again I don't know I'm not

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some Q expert I'm just I can use the

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word allegedly or whatever might be and

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but getting into this conversation going

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from the other subjects that have been

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covered and and jumping into this is

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pretty interesting

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so these answers are our community-based

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that make sense

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these are answers that come from those

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in the know inside of our community yeah

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to say that programs exist that are

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outside of the public domain and the the

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moon landings are real that's that's a

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pretty interesting comment that comes

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from somebody that is well researched

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inside of our community this comment

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about Roswell

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you know Roswell is something that is in

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side of our community outside of our

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community yeah you know you're you're

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gonna get was mentioned in Independence

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Day and it's kind of gotten out there

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and but but most people in the public

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don't know about Roswell most don't it

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may be the most famous case inside of

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our community that everybody knows

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everything about but getting out to

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another seven point four nine billion

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people on this planet don't know about

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Roswell you need to think about that for

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a second so what is Q doing with the

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Roswell knowledge what is Q doing with

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is the secret space program knowledge

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the Apollo fake moon landings this is

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this shifts it for me a little bit it

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does I mean are there people this and

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this is where you need to go with me

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are there people inside of the White

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House that that know about the fake moon

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landings or it being a hoax and Kubrick

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to the secret space program right to

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Roswell and are we alone in the universe

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consider the vastness of space now we've

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got a very unique individual if they are

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inside of the White House walking around

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with those thoughts I'm leaning away

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from that I'm leaning away and wondering

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if Q is somebody that is from inside of

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our community yeah yep yep and so I've

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got a lot of a queue and I on followers

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I get a lot of queuing on email and just

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like anybody else if you want to reach

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out to me and and clarified things fine

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you want to keep the mystery out there

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fine whatever doesn't matter but I read

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this and I'm just like wait a minute

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here you know we got to pump the brakes

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we got a pump the brakes and like

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consider what's going on now for those

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inside of our community read this go

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okay yeah q okay all right Q gets it but

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wait a minute do you understand how

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I am taking a look at this okay this is

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stuff that that we hold near and dear

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inside of our community and the people

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are out there walking around outside of

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our community with this kind of

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knowledge and they can just talk about

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it like this and there's supposed to be

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a government insider trying to change

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the world I got to back up a little bit

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all right okay so that's that's my take

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on this today it's very interesting and

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now one other one other point q and on

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is being read by a lot of people outside

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of our community now okay it was just

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this little conspiracy thing that was

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bouncing around and on Reddit and

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informs but it's not the case anymore

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okay so a lot of people are reading this

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and I thought that we were in the safe

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zone when it came to Q and I because

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this stuff wasn't discussed kind of bums

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me out

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this is fade to black I'm your host

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Jimmy church tonight Clifford stone is

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here we are discussing disclosure all of

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his documents that we will be discussing

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tonight are posted up over at Jimmy

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Church radio.com tonight it's on the

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home page after tonight or after this

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week

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search Clifford stone if you're

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listening to this later and then the

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links will be up there tomorrow night is

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Fator night John wrap reports gonna be

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here open lines all night long Friday

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night I'm off Saturday night I'm over at

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coast-to-coast am and my guest is Jason

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Louvre there you go this is fade to

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black I'm gonna get out of here get

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right back with our guest tonight mr.

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Clifford stone you can follow me on

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hashtag f2b q who do you think is cute

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who do you think it's fake they are not

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in the white house it's a huge troll and

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a very dangerous plot against Patriots

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Wow Bera thinks q maybe JFK jr. who's

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Berra

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dude I'll be right back

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that is out there all of the documents

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that we are going to discuss are over at

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can help me and the producers out

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go ahead and post them up on Twitter too

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as well as we go through everything

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tonight Clifford stone is here tomorrow

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night is open lines say tonight and Jon

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Rappoport will be here with us no more

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fake newsroom live and Friday night I am

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off Saturday night I'm over at

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be Jason Lou tonight it is Clifford

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stone and we are going to discuss his

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entire life of research and involvement

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with UFOs and recovery and and

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disclosure and he has one of the largest

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collections of Freedom of Information

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Act documents portion of those tonight

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00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:52,190
are posted over at a Jimmy Church

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radio.com and today our community is

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talking about disclosure more than ever

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before but how close are we to actual

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government revealing the truth right

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about UFOs Vitti how close were we to

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this happening in the past this isn't

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the first time that we have gone through

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this tonight Clifford will bring forward

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his information and documents that

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reveal how the United States government

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and our military was ready and willing

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to announce to the public that et was

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here and contact had already been made

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he is a decorated Vietnam combat veteran

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he served 22 years he claims that he led

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a double life from the late 1960s

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through

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his retirement in 1990 while officially

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assigned to an NBC teen nuclear

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biological and chemical retrieval and

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abatement detail he says that he served

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on top secret UFO crash retrieval

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missions where he had physical contact

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with downed ET craft and interactions

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with captured non-human life-forms the

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official mbc team assignment allegedly

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served as a cover for those highly

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secretive and compartmentalized

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operations over a period of nearly forty

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years he has amassed one of the largest

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private collections of authentic

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government documents clearly established

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me establishing the hard reality of the

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UFO phenomenon and I would like to

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welcome back to fade to black the one

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and only Clifford stoned Clifford good

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evening man how are you long hanging in

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there thank you and you know a much

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respect and every time that I'm around

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you or we're on the air

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you know you address me as sir and and I

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and that's great Clifford it's just me

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Jimmy okay so and and but your your

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outlook on life and your discipline is

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is just amazing to me and I want to say

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one thing I don't even know if you

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remember this but probably three or four

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years ago I was out speaking at the

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Boswell Festival in Roswell and you were

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speaking there too

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and I I snuck up and and sat in the back

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and listen to you speak and it was one

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of the most compelling events that I had

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been to and I couldn't control myself

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and I jumped up in front of everybody

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there and walked up to you said Clifford

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let's do coast to coast this Saturday

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and you said absolutely and I walked out

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the door

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and you were on Costa with me that week

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and that's just how you are do you even

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remember that happening oh yeah I

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remember it was pretty cool pretty cool

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I was thinking about it so I couldn't

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control you know there's certain times

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in here I just

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Clifford you were just so dynamic in and

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I was pen he's got to be heard you know

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he has got to be heard and that's why

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you are here tonight

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so before we get started Clifford how

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are you doing how's your health how is

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00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:11,050
life mmm my wife she's getting worse

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she's sick she has a severe stroke and

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of course I had a I had a double bypass

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and right now

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they're checking for some other medical

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complications so for the last three

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weeks

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daily I I think one see a doctor he's at

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the VA hospital in Albuquerque or

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Artesia or the doctor year and my wife

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is the one a lot of times to for her

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00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:43,930
medical situation so I always say my

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time is limited but I need to get this

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and for me particularly what we're gonna

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be talking about tonight I'm people need

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to know exactly what happened how close

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it came for the food coming out well

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Clifford first off you need to take care

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of yourself and your wife and your

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family you know you're too important to

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00:39:10,530 --> 00:39:08,470
this community and and we need you so

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00:39:13,410 --> 00:39:10,540
our thoughts and our prayers are right

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there with you and we'll send out the

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00:39:18,180 --> 00:39:15,970
big the big wave of love your way and

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00:39:21,390 --> 00:39:18,190
hopefully you'll feel that tonight but

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we need you man you know so so just just

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take care of yourself okay so thank you

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and there you go

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all right now let's let's talk a little

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bit about today before we move backwards

736
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the last ten months or so since December

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16 2017 we've had a wave of UFO

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disclosure and conversations in the

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mainstream media that started with the

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New York Times in the Washington Post

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and went around to all of the mainstream

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television and print

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and Internet media everywhere was

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00:40:09,980 --> 00:40:07,029
talking about UFOs it now probably the

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most exposure that has ever been and

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going back to the early 1950s through

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that UFO wave that that was a pretty big

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period but today was it was pretty

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dynamic and nobody alive today has ever

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seen anybody that wasn't allowed back

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then clifford has no idea this was the

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most coverage that they've ever seen how

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did that make you feel finally having

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modern mainstream media discussing the

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UFO topic and contact like they did over

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the last ten months well we made me feel

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good but the exception of one thing why

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didn't mainstream media pursue it more

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they dropped it I mean they they totally

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just let it go by the wayside even

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though they had key documents key people

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it was talking the CIA's dia the eitc

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all of these people they tried to

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downplay their job but they had

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documents and of course they didn't use

766
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the term UFO they were using the term

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advanced unconventional aircraft which

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is why the gentleman I can't I never can

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remember his name when he was talking

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about him being party to this where they

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were gathering information on these

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00:41:46,170 --> 00:41:44,740
advanced unconventional aircraft he went

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ahead and stated this is what they were

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calling them and one of the reporters on

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one of the major TV stations asked him

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point-blank do you believe that some of

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these objects of these aircraft are of

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extraterrestrial origin and he very

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carefully chose how he answered he said

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in my opinion I do believe some of these

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our extra correctable origin and the

782
00:42:23,009 --> 00:42:20,049
whole situation is they say that they

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started this and not what 2002 and ended

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into 2012 it's been going on for a long

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time and you know just recently and I

786
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think that's because we heard the terms

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the CIA started to release some

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documentation on it

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dia which the gentleman in question was

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really working for at the time of his

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involvement started to release some

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information minimal information has been

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released by Department of Defense and

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one of the congressional offices they

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released some information but it was

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very limited they really didn't want to

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00:43:07,890 --> 00:43:04,869
discuss it which is why I'm not naming

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the congressional office but the whole

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situation is is that there was a major

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effort where all this is coming out now

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what happened was they had that film

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footage it was released all the major

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networks stated they got that Navy film

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footage from the Department of Defense

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what a lot of people aren't aware of the

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Department of Defense denied this and I

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honestly believe and I'll say in my

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opinion that Department of Defense is

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lying about that and I would love to

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seen just one of the major networks take

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exception and immediately state that

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whoa wait a minute we got it from you

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people

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what do you mean that you never released

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00:44:10,019 --> 00:44:05,079
it the the communications officer for

816
00:44:13,470 --> 00:44:10,029
the Pentagon did come out and she said

817
00:44:18,059 --> 00:44:13,480
well a couple of it was almost like she

818
00:44:22,249 --> 00:44:18,069
said contradicted herself but she

819
00:44:24,599 --> 00:44:22,259
clearly said that the the the the

820
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:24,609
project wasn't named this it was named

821
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:26,770
this that was the first thing the second

822
00:44:32,430 --> 00:44:29,770
thing that she said was that we have not

823
00:44:35,490 --> 00:44:32,440
authorized the release of any videos

824
00:44:38,300 --> 00:44:35,500
right and then there was something else

825
00:44:42,750 --> 00:44:38,310
that came out a little bit more generic

826
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:42,760
that if they were to be released it

827
00:44:49,020 --> 00:44:45,010
wouldn't be through this department so

828
00:44:52,500 --> 00:44:49,030
that was kind of a weird thing to say I

829
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:52,510
mean it was so cut and dried before the

830
00:44:56,910 --> 00:44:53,890
in the other statement as other

831
00:45:02,340 --> 00:44:56,920
statement left like a door open for this

832
00:45:06,450 --> 00:45:02,350
and I there was one ass effort to

833
00:45:10,110 --> 00:45:06,460
squelch the story back in 46 but we did

834
00:45:13,770 --> 00:45:10,120
we went ahead and cused Sweden and

835
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:13,780
Denmark lying about their ghost rockets

836
00:45:19,260 --> 00:45:17,770
and stating that only reason they were

837
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:19,270
talking about these are even bringing

838
00:45:25,620 --> 00:45:22,090
them up is because they wanted more

839
00:45:28,890 --> 00:45:25,630
radar equipment from us that was a total

840
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:28,900
out-and-out lie behind the scenes we had

841
00:45:33,030 --> 00:45:30,970
first you know many of these people were

842
00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:33,040
on the Robinson panel which will

843
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:35,200
probably talk about later on but they

844
00:45:39,510 --> 00:45:36,970
were involved trying to find the ghost

845
00:45:41,940 --> 00:45:39,520
rockets doing the telemetry where they

846
00:45:43,650 --> 00:45:41,950
thought they should crash they glow

847
00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:43,660
there there's nothing there which means

848
00:45:48,810 --> 00:45:45,910
this was something that was flying in

849
00:45:50,700 --> 00:45:48,820
the air didn't crash and continue to go

850
00:45:53,790 --> 00:45:50,710
the reason they were looking for the

851
00:45:59,430 --> 00:45:53,800
crashes was the initially thought that

852
00:46:01,790 --> 00:45:59,440
they were b1 v2 rockets that was being

853
00:46:05,250 --> 00:46:01,800
launched by the former Soviet states in

854
00:46:07,830 --> 00:46:05,260
testing these went off course and went

855
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:07,840
into Sweden and Denmark now with that

856
00:46:14,670 --> 00:46:12,640
being said one we knew then that these

857
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:14,680
were were not illusions when they were

858
00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:18,610
real objects initially we thought they

859
00:46:24,450 --> 00:46:21,520
were Soviet origin where they were

860
00:46:27,630 --> 00:46:24,460
testing v1 v2 stuff like we were here in

861
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:27,640
the slate but the one key point was if

862
00:46:31,250 --> 00:46:29,770
that was the case we would have found

863
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:31,260
debris because they would have crashed

864
00:46:38,850 --> 00:46:35,050
we didn't find that so we were still

865
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:38,860
looking for what these objects were but

866
00:46:43,390 --> 00:46:40,610
when the media here in America

867
00:46:46,780 --> 00:46:43,400
start to pick up on what happened in 46

868
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:46,790
as a result of the June 24th Kenneth

869
00:46:53,980 --> 00:46:49,850
Arnold UFO sighting they immediately

870
00:46:57,130 --> 00:46:53,990
went ahead and called Val on the Sweden

871
00:47:00,730 --> 00:46:57,140
and Denmark and this later on would

872
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:00,740
actually lead to a problem with the CIA

873
00:47:10,420 --> 00:47:07,010
and the FBI the the version of

874
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:10,430
disclosure today Clifford I want your

875
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:12,850
definition of that disclosure can mean

876
00:47:18,850 --> 00:47:16,010
anything to anybody and it certainly

877
00:47:22,750 --> 00:47:18,860
it's whatever their interest is it

878
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:22,760
doesn't necessarily have to mean UFOs or

879
00:47:32,380 --> 00:47:27,290
et but disclosure inside of our

880
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:32,390
community is not any type of drip drip

881
00:47:36,910 --> 00:47:34,130
or the media or anything else the only

882
00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:36,920
thing that they will accept is the

883
00:47:41,470 --> 00:47:39,200
President of the United States stepping

884
00:47:43,900 --> 00:47:41,480
up to a podium live on television saying

885
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:43,910
we've made contact we've been making

886
00:47:48,550 --> 00:47:46,850
contact et is real we are not alone in

887
00:47:51,610 --> 00:47:48,560
the universe and until that happens

888
00:47:52,990 --> 00:47:51,620
discs that anything else is just not

889
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:53,000
disclosure it's what they're already

890
00:48:01,600 --> 00:47:57,850
used to what what is disclosure for you

891
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:01,610
disclosure for me is getting the

892
00:48:09,910 --> 00:48:03,530
documentation out that clearly shows

893
00:48:12,940 --> 00:48:09,920
something's going on and that we get to

894
00:48:15,790 --> 00:48:12,950
the point that apex where they can no

895
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:15,800
longer deny what the documentation is

896
00:48:22,930 --> 00:48:19,090
saying and eventually come out and say

897
00:48:24,940 --> 00:48:22,940
okay you know for security reasons and

898
00:48:28,630 --> 00:48:24,950
that's what they're going to say we have

899
00:48:31,780 --> 00:48:28,640
had to keep this under wraps but now we

900
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:31,790
feel you have a need to know but we want

901
00:48:36,070 --> 00:48:34,370
to make sure that it's being handled to

902
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:36,080
the point where you realize there's

903
00:48:40,630 --> 00:48:39,290
nothing to fear from this and at that

904
00:48:46,090 --> 00:48:40,640
point it's going to break and I can tell

905
00:48:48,580 --> 00:48:46,100
you right now that was in the UFO realm

906
00:48:51,190 --> 00:48:48,590
within the US government and other

907
00:48:53,290 --> 00:48:51,200
governments included you have some

908
00:48:54,490 --> 00:48:53,300
people that are in control of the UFO

909
00:48:57,130 --> 00:48:54,500
information

910
00:48:59,800 --> 00:48:57,140
the really powerful people are still

911
00:49:02,320 --> 00:48:59,810
keeping it under wraps but there's a

912
00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:02,330
major effort and the nations that are

913
00:49:05,950 --> 00:49:05,119
involved in trying to get this

914
00:49:09,310 --> 00:49:05,960
information

915
00:49:12,460 --> 00:49:09,320
slowly but surely out to where

916
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:12,470
eventually we can go ahead and draw a

917
00:49:16,599 --> 00:49:14,930
picture and say okay here's what's been

918
00:49:20,020 --> 00:49:16,609
going on and it's still going on today

919
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:20,030
in the intelligence community you have

920
00:49:26,109 --> 00:49:22,090
what's called counter intelligence

921
00:49:29,710 --> 00:49:26,119
analysts these people have to take 10%

922
00:49:31,859 --> 00:49:29,720
of the intelligence data coming in on a

923
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:31,869
potential threat to the US government

924
00:49:37,089 --> 00:49:34,130
I'm using the US government cuz I know

925
00:49:41,700 --> 00:49:37,099
more about it than the other governments

926
00:49:45,580 --> 00:49:41,710
but they take that 10% with that 10%

927
00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:45,590
they have to go ahead and create the

928
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:47,920
whole picture they have to go ahead and

929
00:49:55,150 --> 00:49:52,490
accurately fill in the other 90% now

930
00:49:58,030 --> 00:49:55,160
once that happens then it said through

931
00:49:59,950 --> 00:49:58,040
their customers in in the field and they

932
00:50:02,079 --> 00:49:59,960
make the decisions on what to do with it

933
00:50:04,599 --> 00:50:02,089
and you know we don't even have to go to

934
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:04,609
the UFOs on that all we have to do is go

935
00:50:12,730 --> 00:50:09,410
to Ted of 1968 the FBI in March of this

936
00:50:15,579 --> 00:50:12,740
year release literally several thousand

937
00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:15,589
documents showing we all knew what was

938
00:50:22,630 --> 00:50:19,520
going to happen in tatah 68 but we felt

939
00:50:25,089 --> 00:50:22,640
that you know it can't be we rejected it

940
00:50:28,770 --> 00:50:25,099
even though all the documentation was

941
00:50:31,109 --> 00:50:28,780
coming in we totally rejected that the

942
00:50:36,010 --> 00:50:31,119
Communists would launch any type of

943
00:50:38,410 --> 00:50:36,020
offensive over the Tet holidays we knew

944
00:50:41,530 --> 00:50:38,420
that they would lose too many people and

945
00:50:45,010 --> 00:50:41,540
it would be a catastrophic defeat for

946
00:50:48,370 --> 00:50:45,020
them militarily what the powers-that-be

947
00:50:50,620 --> 00:50:48,380
the setback in a situation room looking

948
00:50:53,140 --> 00:50:50,630
at a map and going over papers who

949
00:50:56,620 --> 00:50:53,150
wasn't over there beating the bush in

950
00:50:59,260 --> 00:50:56,630
the field what they ignored was the fact

951
00:51:01,810 --> 00:50:59,270
the Communists were not looking for a

952
00:51:04,810 --> 00:51:01,820
military victory that there they were

953
00:51:06,070 --> 00:51:04,820
looking for a political victory they got

954
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:06,080
that political victory

955
00:51:12,090 --> 00:51:08,090
from that moment on from

956
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:12,100
period of time everything went down hill

957
00:51:19,180 --> 00:51:15,410
because the whole situation is the

958
00:51:20,500 --> 00:51:19,190
American people were very upset the US

959
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:20,510
government from not ending the world

960
00:51:26,970 --> 00:51:24,290
more quickly now the powers-that-be was

961
00:51:30,550 --> 00:51:26,980
listening to the American people and the

962
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:30,560
military in Vietnam it was like they had

963
00:51:39,030 --> 00:51:34,610
been forgotten and being there that

964
00:51:42,730 --> 00:51:39,040
bothers me now me being involved in UFOs

965
00:51:45,220 --> 00:51:42,740
it bothers me to the point where I want

966
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:45,230
to be a part of the solution and getting

967
00:51:57,910 --> 00:51:55,420
yes people yeah there's something going

968
00:52:01,200 --> 00:51:57,920
on here yeah I heard that

969
00:52:05,790 --> 00:52:01,210
I heard that what was that I don't know

970
00:52:10,180 --> 00:52:05,800
yeah I heard that in the background okay

971
00:52:11,530 --> 00:52:10,190
Wow Wow okay well when you find out what

972
00:52:11,980 --> 00:52:11,540
that directly they're not gonna keep me

973
00:52:15,310 --> 00:52:11,990
quiet

974
00:52:17,230 --> 00:52:15,320
yeah that was it I was I stopped

975
00:52:20,340 --> 00:52:17,240
listening to you I was listening to the

976
00:52:22,750 --> 00:52:20,350
background Clifford I've got to admit it

977
00:52:23,230 --> 00:52:22,760
okay all right and that was that was

978
00:52:25,300 --> 00:52:23,240
weird

979
00:52:30,730 --> 00:52:25,310
I was trying to make out what the voice

980
00:52:36,330 --> 00:52:30,740
said was it outside of your house it was

981
00:52:43,450 --> 00:52:36,340
outside by the rent door Wow

982
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:43,460
okay okay all right well we're gonna be

983
00:52:47,770 --> 00:52:44,930
headed towards a break here in about

984
00:52:49,180 --> 00:52:47,780
five minutes and when we do we'll break

985
00:52:51,060 --> 00:52:49,190
for commercial for about four minutes

986
00:52:53,860 --> 00:52:51,070
and and you can go and check that out

987
00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:53,870
and keep everything live don't hang up

988
00:52:59,410 --> 00:52:55,760
the phone so I can listen oh yeah

989
00:53:01,660 --> 00:52:59,420
okay so I wanted to ask you this because

990
00:53:04,150 --> 00:53:01,670
you brought up a very important point

991
00:53:05,620 --> 00:53:04,160
and then we'll start to talk about the

992
00:53:10,270 --> 00:53:05,630
documents when we come back after the

993
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:10,280
break the the video footage the gun

994
00:53:14,770 --> 00:53:12,650
camera the gimbal footage and what have

995
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:14,780
you that that it has been released

996
00:53:20,450 --> 00:53:18,170
wasn't that spectacular we've seen you

997
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:20,460
know better UFO footage in the past

998
00:53:26,510 --> 00:53:22,970
but what was interesting about that was

999
00:53:29,630 --> 00:53:26,520
that it had allegedly come straight from

1000
00:53:31,900 --> 00:53:29,640
the Pentagon which is what you had just

1001
00:53:35,870 --> 00:53:31,910
said now that there are people inside

1002
00:53:38,750 --> 00:53:35,880
that do control this information if they

1003
00:53:41,720 --> 00:53:38,760
were going to in your opinion Clifford

1004
00:53:45,290 --> 00:53:41,730
if they were going to leak stuff out to

1005
00:53:47,540 --> 00:53:45,300
a company like to the stars Academy is

1006
00:53:48,950 --> 00:53:47,550
that the best that they can do I mean

1007
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:48,960
certainly there sitting on better

1008
00:53:54,710 --> 00:53:52,770
footage than that and it seemed a little

1009
00:53:57,020 --> 00:53:54,720
lackluster to me and then after that

1010
00:53:59,540 --> 00:53:57,030
they took their foot off the gas they

1011
00:54:00,670 --> 00:53:59,550
just let the story go and it died on the

1012
00:54:04,790 --> 00:54:00,680
vine

1013
00:54:06,980 --> 00:54:04,800
we we were terrific UFO footage the

1014
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:06,990
landing out here at Holloman right I

1015
00:54:13,190 --> 00:54:09,450
used to have what four eight hundred

1016
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:13,200
foot of of that landing until was taken

1017
00:54:18,350 --> 00:54:16,050
back from me because I somebody called

1018
00:54:20,450 --> 00:54:18,360
me and thought they were covering up on

1019
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:20,460
what they were trying to talk about but

1020
00:54:24,650 --> 00:54:22,650
you know our intelligence community

1021
00:54:26,690 --> 00:54:24,660
isn't down they knew it's in a half-hour

1022
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:26,700
they were here gathering all that data

1023
00:54:31,790 --> 00:54:29,610
though I lost a film now I keep a whole

1024
00:54:32,540 --> 00:54:31,800
lot of stuff away from the house here

1025
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:32,550
mm-hmm

1026
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:36,210
but the situation that film was real but

1027
00:54:41,240 --> 00:54:37,890
the the reason they chose to use that

1028
00:54:46,810 --> 00:54:41,250
film it supported what the man was

1029
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:46,820
saying about them doing the research on

1030
00:54:56,750 --> 00:54:53,490
these unconventional aircraft that and

1031
00:54:59,530 --> 00:54:56,760
all the whole situation is is that was

1032
00:55:04,700 --> 00:54:59,540
the point that were trying to get across

1033
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:04,710
the the National Solar Observatory right

1034
00:55:07,550 --> 00:55:06,810
there near you and New Mexico was closed

1035
00:55:10,310 --> 00:55:07,560
down

1036
00:55:15,530 --> 00:55:10,320
last Thursday September 6th by the FBI

1037
00:55:16,510 --> 00:55:15,540
and you're right there in that area they

1038
00:55:18,770 --> 00:55:16,520
moved me around

1039
00:55:20,810 --> 00:55:18,780
it's it's right there you know you have

1040
00:55:23,420 --> 00:55:20,820
Holloman there and when sands and of

1041
00:55:26,450 --> 00:55:23,430
course Roswell and you right you're all

1042
00:55:28,070 --> 00:55:26,460
right there what do you think was we've

1043
00:55:30,490 --> 00:55:28,080
got about two minutes Clifford what do

1044
00:55:33,540 --> 00:55:30,500
you think was going on with that I

1045
00:55:36,510 --> 00:55:33,550
they have officially stated

1046
00:55:41,910 --> 00:55:36,520
was tied to some type of child

1047
00:55:44,970 --> 00:55:41,920
pornography situation I think and I have

1048
00:55:47,730 --> 00:55:44,980
to say I think that it actually had

1049
00:55:50,130 --> 00:55:47,740
something to do with a biological

1050
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:50,140
contaminant and I don't think it was

1051
00:55:53,940 --> 00:55:52,570
mercury they were worried about with

1052
00:55:57,050 --> 00:55:53,950
that being said please keep in mind

1053
00:56:00,300 --> 00:55:57,060
there should not be any biological

1054
00:56:02,310 --> 00:56:00,310
contaminant other than mercury because

1055
00:56:05,460 --> 00:56:02,320
of the telescope's that they use there

1056
00:56:09,420 --> 00:56:05,470
right but the telescope's are intact and

1057
00:56:13,190 --> 00:56:09,430
they were not damaged insured I honestly

1058
00:56:16,170 --> 00:56:13,200
believe my opinion that this child

1059
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:16,180
pornography situation tying with it

1060
00:56:23,130 --> 00:56:19,330
I think that that right there is a cover

1061
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:23,140
story period the American people are

1062
00:56:29,340 --> 00:56:25,690
going to buy it and it's going to be the

1063
00:56:31,110 --> 00:56:29,350
end of the story I don't buy it and I'm

1064
00:56:34,260 --> 00:56:31,120
gonna keep searching to try to find out

1065
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:34,270
what really happened there the we're

1066
00:56:38,820 --> 00:56:35,890
gonna get to the bottom of that too it's

1067
00:56:41,070 --> 00:56:38,830
it I can already see that the National

1068
00:56:41,790 --> 00:56:41,080
Solar Observatory story is going to be a

1069
00:56:45,260 --> 00:56:41,800
tough one

1070
00:56:48,660 --> 00:56:45,270
they've I they've chosen to take this

1071
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:48,670
attacked with it and we all know they're

1072
00:56:53,940 --> 00:56:51,130
covering something up you know we know

1073
00:56:59,010 --> 00:56:53,950
this but we need to now do all of this

1074
00:57:02,790 --> 00:56:59,020
work and seriously frustrating work of

1075
00:57:04,170 --> 00:57:02,800
trying to get to the truth and it's not

1076
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:04,180
going to go away there's too many people

1077
00:57:10,170 --> 00:57:06,970
that are on this including yourself and

1078
00:57:13,110 --> 00:57:10,180
I was told to go ahead and consider

1079
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:13,120
myself on standby and hopefully I

1080
00:57:19,500 --> 00:57:15,610
remembered what I learned was on the NBC

1081
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:19,510
team and I said I'm sick I walk with

1082
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:23,170
crutches mm-hm and I can't do it oh yes

1083
00:57:28,490 --> 00:57:23,890
you can

1084
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:28,500
just remember no phone number no nothing

1085
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on my caller ID very strange that's

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strange well let's take a break right

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here let's let's do this now and I want

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you to go and check out who is uh poking

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around your front door

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I heard the voice I heard it right there

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in the background our guest tonight is

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Clifford stone we're discussing

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disclosure so what we're gonna do and

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all of the documents that we are gonna

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start to discuss now propos'd it over at

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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black our guest

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tonight Clifford stone all the documents

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that we are going to discuss tonight

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dealing with disclosure and the past all

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the way through today by the way

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everything is connected are posted over

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at Jimmy Church radio.com and now

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01:03:09,759 --> 01:03:08,119
Clifford who's at your front door well

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01:03:12,849 --> 01:03:09,769
it turned out that he went around on my

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01:03:14,230 --> 01:03:12,859
back to work yeah man I hate things like

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this to happen because it makes you feel

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01:03:20,529 --> 01:03:16,039
like you know people gonna think you're

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01:03:25,390 --> 01:03:20,539
crazy but the dog alerted I'm not

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01:03:29,559 --> 01:03:25,400
letting him go out well I heard a voice

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01:03:31,569 --> 01:03:29,569
I heard a yell yeah what what did what

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01:03:34,150 --> 01:03:31,579
did the voice say what what did he say

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01:03:35,380 --> 01:03:34,160
it was a man who's male you know it's

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01:03:39,690 --> 01:03:35,390
hard to try to make out what he was

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01:03:43,839 --> 01:03:39,700
saying and when I opened the back door I

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01:03:46,509 --> 01:03:43,849
don't even want to say okay all right

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01:03:52,900 --> 01:03:46,519
they don't like the idea of me talking

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01:03:54,970 --> 01:03:52,910
about what almost happened in the well

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okay let's let's get into that then

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let's find out what what is it that lets

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01:04:04,630 --> 01:04:00,470
go now we've got a load of documents

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here do you want me to open these up in

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01:04:09,670 --> 01:04:07,940
order that you sent them to me it's

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01:04:12,940 --> 01:04:09,680
probably best to do it that way because

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01:04:16,710 --> 01:04:12,950
it actually lays down a pattern of

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01:04:18,910 --> 01:04:16,720
events that was set in place because

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01:04:21,579 --> 01:04:18,920
people in high places to include the

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01:04:23,529 --> 01:04:21,589
president was the comparative the lying

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about what was really going on one new

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truth and there was an agency the major

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01:04:33,549 --> 01:04:30,440
agency that had they actually released

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01:04:36,190 --> 01:04:33,559
that intelligence directive then I'll

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the until everyone in the intelligence

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01:04:42,249 --> 01:04:38,029
community would be involved in gathering

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01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:42,259
data on UFOs by mid 1953 we wouldn't be

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01:04:47,950 --> 01:04:45,170
having this conversation because the

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world would know that we are now on in

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01:04:56,039 --> 01:04:50,990
the universe and that we have visitors

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let's go to this first document and for

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everybody just go to document number one

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I need to go let me go over to a Jimmy

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Church radio calm let me see how we've

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01:05:17,109 --> 01:05:12,229
got these hold on for second Clifford

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01:05:20,219 --> 01:05:17,119
let me pause this okay oh I just open it

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01:05:25,420 --> 01:05:20,229
hold on for a second okay the the

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01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:25,430
documents are listed here I don't see

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01:05:31,499 --> 01:05:28,130
them let me see here okay so we jump

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01:05:38,430 --> 01:05:31,509
back a page okay here they are

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01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:38,440
documented - okay the first one is dated

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July 26th 27th the object was on July

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01:05:53,079 --> 01:05:50,299
20th and I think that is that right

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there is the blue book file 107 pages

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01:05:58,739 --> 01:05:55,999
dealing with the overflights the night

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01:06:01,900 --> 01:05:58,749
of July 26th 27th over Washington DC

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01:06:04,239 --> 01:06:01,910
yeah and yes there's okay so the

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01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:04,249
documents are here in order this is the

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01:06:10,719 --> 01:06:08,930
top one it says document - yeah right

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01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:10,729
now I have over a hundred documents

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01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:12,650
feeling like yeah that that's fine no

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01:06:17,769 --> 01:06:14,450
I'm just letting our audience know so

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01:06:20,259 --> 01:06:17,779
document to the top document and of all

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01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:20,269
the people that this one we're starting

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01:06:28,059 --> 01:06:23,410
off with infamous all right captain

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01:06:30,359 --> 01:06:28,069
repelled and what okay so let's go

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01:06:33,190 --> 01:06:30,369
through this it the subject is

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01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:33,200
discussion of Washington DC radar

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01:06:38,620 --> 01:06:36,650
sightings of unidentified object on 20th

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and twenty six and twenty seventh in

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July 1952

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take it away Clifford okay in this

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01:06:49,479 --> 01:06:46,309
document it's showing where these

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objects went over Washington DC and it's

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when you go through the whole hundred

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01:06:56,019 --> 01:06:53,329
and seven pages you realize that it's

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not just radar sightings but people

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military people actually saw the UFOs

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01:07:04,989 --> 01:07:00,890
fighters were sent up to intercept the

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UFOs and one instance a fighter aircraft

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01:07:08,499 --> 01:07:07,160
was surrounded by the UFOs and they kept

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closing in and finally they started to

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go away

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locked on the one who's running him

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01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:13,550
tried to chase a skirt but it pulled

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01:07:20,380 --> 01:07:17,930
away like he was sweating Steel repelled

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01:07:22,060 --> 01:07:20,390
when he was told that the president

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01:07:25,350 --> 01:07:22,070
wanted to know what was going on he went

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01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:25,360
ahead and told the caller that the

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01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:27,050
sightings were nothing more than

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01:07:32,470 --> 01:07:29,330
temperature inversions or weather

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01:07:35,410 --> 01:07:32,480
anomaly that there was really nothing to

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01:07:37,990 --> 01:07:35,420
him now he didn't know that wasn't the

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01:07:40,359 --> 01:07:38,000
case but you know that's what he had

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01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:40,369
been told by the people there at Blue

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01:07:46,050 --> 01:07:43,130
Book which he was over but there was a

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01:07:49,990 --> 01:07:46,060
lieutenant on the Navy lieutenant Newton

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01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:50,000
who was there at the tower and I'll chop

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01:07:54,460 --> 01:07:52,610
who was there at the tower and several

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01:07:56,740 --> 01:07:54,470
experts on radar that was there at the

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01:07:58,810 --> 01:07:56,750
tower making it clear that there was no

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01:08:01,780 --> 01:07:58,820
malfunction of the radar that they were

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01:08:06,130 --> 01:08:01,790
not temperature inversions and that the

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01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:06,140
objects were good solid returns and the

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01:08:12,060 --> 01:08:09,650
whole situation is is that this is not

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01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:12,070
what the Air Force the powers-that-be

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01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:15,050
wanted to know now but other people

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01:08:21,099 --> 01:08:15,530
don't know

1305
01:08:24,130 --> 01:08:21,109
on that same day July 26 the Air Defense

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01:08:27,130 --> 01:08:24,140
Command issued an order to shoot down

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01:08:29,980 --> 01:08:27,140
any UFO that refused to land when

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01:08:32,769 --> 01:08:29,990
directed to do so the only reason we

1309
01:08:34,930 --> 01:08:32,779
know about that is because they went

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01:08:37,390 --> 01:08:34,940
ahead and released a news release which

1311
01:08:41,530 --> 01:08:37,400
they immediately withdraw it was drew it

1312
01:08:45,670 --> 01:08:41,540
was put out about 12:30 that day by 5:30

1313
01:08:47,410 --> 01:08:45,680
in the afternoon it was drawn but the

1314
01:08:50,349 --> 01:08:47,420
whole situation is I think that our

1315
01:08:52,900 --> 01:08:50,359
visitors since they over proved

1316
01:08:55,660 --> 01:08:52,910
Washington and the White House on the

1317
01:08:59,050 --> 01:08:55,670
night a week earlier is a day on the

1318
01:09:01,240 --> 01:08:59,060
night of July 19th to the 20th we didn't

1319
01:09:06,610 --> 01:09:01,250
get the message so on the night of July

1320
01:09:10,630 --> 01:09:06,620
26 27 they showed up in force now this

1321
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:10,640
was a wake-up call for the president

1322
01:09:17,470 --> 01:09:13,850
members of Congress members were in the

1323
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:17,480
Department of Defense that there was

1324
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:19,970
something going on these objects were

1325
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:23,170
real they were under intelligent control

1326
01:09:28,090 --> 01:09:26,090
therefore they needed more than just

1327
01:09:30,430 --> 01:09:28,100
some people going around ham Hawking

1328
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:30,440
saying other temperature inversions all

1329
01:09:34,810 --> 01:09:32,090
the weather anomaly there

1330
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:34,820
misidentifications of known aircraft or

1331
01:09:41,110 --> 01:09:38,090
known phenomena and in this case this

1332
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:41,120
totally was not yet also it showed how

1333
01:09:49,420 --> 01:09:45,730
barnable that a major city and

1334
01:09:53,980 --> 01:09:49,430
particularly a city that was in control

1335
01:09:56,170 --> 01:09:53,990
of this country was to aircraft of some

1336
01:09:59,200 --> 01:09:56,180
sort flying and we were powerless to

1337
01:10:01,060 --> 01:09:59,210
stop them even to the point where it was

1338
01:10:04,810 --> 01:10:01,070
a violation of the restricted air

1339
01:10:08,290 --> 01:10:04,820
quarters ADIZ to fly over the White

1340
01:10:11,710 --> 01:10:08,300
House they had several UFOs fly over the

1341
01:10:12,670 --> 01:10:11,720
White House stop and there was nothing

1342
01:10:14,860 --> 01:10:12,680
we could do about it

1343
01:10:19,060 --> 01:10:14,870
so yeah the president the United States

1344
01:10:21,370 --> 01:10:19,070
was very concerned there's a yeah

1345
01:10:24,210 --> 01:10:21,380
there's two points well the this this

1346
01:10:29,710 --> 01:10:24,220
first document is an amazing read and

1347
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:29,720
they're on page five of the document it

1348
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:31,370
says right there that repelled got a

1349
01:10:36,730 --> 01:10:34,850
phone call from the newspaper there is

1350
01:10:41,110 --> 01:10:36,740
probably the Washington Post I would

1351
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:41,120
assume right but Washington Post and he

1352
01:10:48,370 --> 01:10:45,170
was he was told that he and this is this

1353
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:48,380
is a report after the fact but that he

1354
01:10:54,490 --> 01:10:50,930
was told he was not to speak to the

1355
01:10:56,830 --> 01:10:54,500
press and but and and that was on that's

1356
01:10:59,290 --> 01:10:56,840
that's on page five and what what

1357
01:11:02,790 --> 01:10:59,300
transpired from there everybody can go

1358
01:11:07,810 --> 01:11:02,800
and read but if you go forward to page

1359
01:11:11,290 --> 01:11:07,820
73 these are my notes this is on page 73

1360
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:11,300
and I'm gonna read directly from the

1361
01:11:17,230 --> 01:11:13,250
document visual sightings were reported

1362
01:11:20,710 --> 01:11:17,240
by both ground and airborne witnesses

1363
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:20,720
the description the descriptions by the

1364
01:11:25,930 --> 01:11:23,690
witnesses were generally the same the

1365
01:11:29,380 --> 01:11:25,940
objects were described as changing from

1366
01:11:32,890 --> 01:11:29,390
orange to green and back to read the

1367
01:11:36,700 --> 01:11:32,900
numbers varied from one to six with no

1368
01:11:37,030 --> 01:11:36,710
apparent set formation three objects

1369
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:37,040
were

1370
01:11:42,970 --> 01:11:40,850
reported to have left trails the motions

1371
01:11:46,870 --> 01:11:42,980
of the objects for the most part

1372
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:46,880
appeared erratic in some instances the

1373
01:11:55,330 --> 01:11:52,810
objects were described as meteors very

1374
01:11:59,740 --> 01:11:55,340
interesting thing to have in this

1375
01:12:03,460 --> 01:11:59,750
document for a variety of reasons but

1376
01:12:08,540 --> 01:12:03,470
for me I have seen this exact thing with

1377
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:08,550
my own eyes there me too right

1378
01:12:16,270 --> 01:12:10,690
[Music]

1379
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:16,280
and that's on page that's on page 73 and

1380
01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:20,690
now oh go to page 80 is it growing there

1381
01:12:25,540 --> 01:12:23,450
no one can explain what that drawing why

1382
01:12:28,390 --> 01:12:25,550
that going there and what it would be oh

1383
01:12:30,430 --> 01:12:28,400
I saw this yes yes yes okay well there's

1384
01:12:33,580 --> 01:12:30,440
a couple of things in here that

1385
01:12:37,930 --> 01:12:33,590
definitely seem out of place so yes

1386
01:12:40,750 --> 01:12:37,940
everybody go to page 80 and here we have

1387
01:12:44,020 --> 01:12:40,760
i okay I'll let you describe what we're

1388
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:44,030
looking at here I rather apparent to me

1389
01:12:50,410 --> 01:12:47,890
until I take a second look okay so what

1390
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:50,420
what are we see look you're looking at

1391
01:12:54,130 --> 01:12:52,610
looks like a drawing of a little devil

1392
01:12:57,580 --> 01:12:54,140
and probably back in the day they'd call

1393
01:13:00,400 --> 01:12:57,590
that a gremlin right but the this

1394
01:13:01,810 --> 01:13:00,410
gremlin you know has the three fingers

1395
01:13:05,470 --> 01:13:01,820
if you look closely and you can look at

1396
01:13:09,700 --> 01:13:05,480
the toes three toes it's got of course

1397
01:13:12,700 --> 01:13:09,710
the tail got grill sharp key but what I

1398
01:13:14,440 --> 01:13:12,710
find interesting is the fact that it

1399
01:13:16,810 --> 01:13:14,450
appears to have some type of suit one

1400
01:13:19,540 --> 01:13:16,820
eye mincing over the right hand side I

1401
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:19,550
think it is yes it appears to have like

1402
01:13:25,330 --> 01:13:23,090
an what would what would we would call

1403
01:13:27,430 --> 01:13:25,340
some type of emblem but it's like oval

1404
01:13:30,130 --> 01:13:27,440
shape but that's about as far as it goes

1405
01:13:32,590 --> 01:13:30,140
they have no writing and I think I think

1406
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:32,600
that a person put that in there for one

1407
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:36,050
reason so that people would understand

1408
01:13:43,660 --> 01:13:37,970
that there were people who were working

1409
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:43,670
in the UFO field that by everything they

1410
01:13:49,790 --> 01:13:46,250
saw and all their investigations

1411
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:49,800
concluded some

1412
01:13:55,549 --> 01:13:53,250
one else was behind the intelligence and

1413
01:13:58,850 --> 01:13:55,559
the technology on UFOs and it did not

1414
01:14:00,830 --> 01:13:58,860
originate on this planet and I think out

1415
01:14:01,990 --> 01:14:00,840
of frustration that's why the person did

1416
01:14:04,220 --> 01:14:02,000
what they did putting that in there

1417
01:14:07,459 --> 01:14:04,230
there was a lot of questions asked about

1418
01:14:11,030 --> 01:14:07,469
that drawing by the way I'm looking at

1419
01:14:16,819 --> 01:14:11,040
it here I don't know what to make of it

1420
01:14:21,740 --> 01:14:16,829
okay I don't I it but that looks to me

1421
01:14:23,930 --> 01:14:21,750
to be a flying saucer emblem it was in

1422
01:14:25,790 --> 01:14:23,940
and it's done with intention that's the

1423
01:14:27,979 --> 01:14:25,800
only phone absolutely that's the only

1424
01:14:31,780 --> 01:14:27,989
thing that I can think of and as I look

1425
01:14:35,359 --> 01:14:31,790
at this it's a very very impressive

1426
01:14:37,700 --> 01:14:35,369
drawing now it looks like a devil right

1427
01:14:40,250 --> 01:14:37,710
he's got a tail I don't know if those

1428
01:14:42,049 --> 01:14:40,260
are arms or wings it's kind of strange

1429
01:14:44,810 --> 01:14:42,059
you're right about the three finger or

1430
01:14:50,299 --> 01:14:44,820
the three toes but he's got a suit on

1431
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:50,309
and he looks like he's flying and he's

1432
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:52,770
got an emblem and that emblem looks like

1433
01:14:58,549 --> 01:14:55,610
a flying saucer and this is in a

1434
01:15:02,479 --> 01:14:58,559
government report about the UFOs that

1435
01:15:05,629 --> 01:15:02,489
were sighted over Washington DC I have

1436
01:15:08,750 --> 01:15:05,639
no idea that that's that when I saw this

1437
01:15:13,129 --> 01:15:08,760
earlier today I I stopped now there was

1438
01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:13,139
also Clifford here earlier I don't know

1439
01:15:17,270 --> 01:15:14,880
what page it was on there's some

1440
01:15:20,540 --> 01:15:17,280
newspaper clippings and one is of a

1441
01:15:25,790 --> 01:15:20,550
party and I didn't make any notes of it

1442
01:15:27,649 --> 01:15:25,800
what why it's it's on page 63 invites

1443
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:27,659
you to drive out today or this evening

1444
01:15:36,350 --> 01:15:31,170
and visit with the lake bar craft

1445
01:15:38,780 --> 01:15:36,360
estates home sites for okay it's it's a

1446
01:15:43,700 --> 01:15:38,790
it's a real estate listing but why is

1447
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:43,710
this in here I'm not sure why they put

1448
01:15:46,430 --> 01:15:45,090
that in there but a lot of times I'm

1449
01:15:50,419 --> 01:15:46,440
going to go ahead and do these newspaper

1450
01:15:53,060 --> 01:15:50,429
clippings they would take out the story

1451
01:15:55,370 --> 01:15:53,070
about the incident in which the bomb was

1452
01:15:57,310 --> 01:15:55,380
supposed to be about and sometimes

1453
01:16:00,260 --> 01:15:57,320
they'd go ahead and take out some of the

1454
01:16:01,879 --> 01:16:00,270
advertisement also not that they were

1455
01:16:03,140 --> 01:16:01,889
necessary or they were supposed to be

1456
01:16:05,149 --> 01:16:03,150
there but

1457
01:16:07,850 --> 01:16:05,159
that would happen from time to time and

1458
01:16:09,410 --> 01:16:07,860
before we get out of this document and

1459
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:09,420
move on to another one

1460
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:11,730
what other pages should we look at here

1461
01:16:23,180 --> 01:16:17,250
oh I don't know I that the whole thing

1462
01:16:25,580 --> 01:16:23,190
is interesting but the first 25 pages at

1463
01:16:31,310 --> 01:16:25,590
least you see where they have radar

1464
01:16:33,919 --> 01:16:31,320
experts there in the tower who observe

1465
01:16:35,300 --> 01:16:33,929
what they saw and of course they're

1466
01:16:38,510 --> 01:16:35,310
making it clear they're keeping an open

1467
01:16:41,060 --> 01:16:38,520
mind but something was flying in

1468
01:16:44,899 --> 01:16:41,070
Washington the the air above Washington

1469
01:16:47,630 --> 01:16:44,909
on that night in question and these

1470
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:47,640
people would know when you get to the

1471
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:49,770
next set you have people trying to

1472
01:16:56,229 --> 01:16:53,850
downplay it okay I am going to let me

1473
01:16:59,810 --> 01:16:56,239
get this posted up here really quick and

1474
01:17:01,550 --> 01:16:59,820
this is page 80 I've got to put this up

1475
01:17:06,950 --> 01:17:01,560
in Twitter for everybody just so that

1476
01:17:09,140 --> 01:17:06,960
they can check this out it's it's the

1477
01:17:11,930 --> 01:17:09,150
emblem man it's the emblem that just

1478
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:11,940
throws me for a loop here I don't I

1479
01:17:16,850 --> 01:17:14,130
don't know what this I don't know what

1480
01:17:18,590 --> 01:17:16,860
that is all about let's think major

1481
01:17:20,390 --> 01:17:18,600
Cornett is the one that actually did

1482
01:17:24,110 --> 01:17:20,400
that drawing oppose it there because he

1483
01:17:26,930 --> 01:17:24,120
was very angry and upset that people did

1484
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:26,940
not want to go ahead and let him speak

1485
01:17:34,459 --> 01:17:31,050
and also at the time even a professor

1486
01:17:36,649 --> 01:17:34,469
Hynek but they did not want those two

1487
01:17:39,229 --> 01:17:36,659
people to speak at that time because

1488
01:17:41,380 --> 01:17:39,239
both of them was coming around where

1489
01:17:44,540 --> 01:17:41,390
they felt that there was more to UFOs

1490
01:17:47,090 --> 01:17:44,550
inet made the statement based on this

1491
01:17:48,919 --> 01:17:47,100
particular incident and the other thing

1492
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:48,929
he saw because initially when he got

1493
01:17:55,310 --> 01:17:51,449
involved in the scientific consultants

1494
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:55,320
of the Air Force he stated these UFOs

1495
01:17:59,990 --> 01:17:57,449
are these flying objects are gonna go

1496
01:18:01,669 --> 01:18:00,000
the way of the sea serpent after the in

1497
01:18:03,410 --> 01:18:01,679
the summer are going to be gone well

1498
01:18:06,620 --> 01:18:03,420
that didn't happen then he came out and

1499
01:18:10,419 --> 01:18:06,630
stated there's got to be something to

1500
01:18:13,399 --> 01:18:10,429
this because we have income we have

1501
01:18:17,030 --> 01:18:13,409
incredible events being reported by very

1502
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:17,040
credible people and even general

1503
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:19,170
sampler would use that in his press

1504
01:18:24,229 --> 01:18:21,690
conference but it was a high-neck that

1505
01:18:26,390 --> 01:18:24,239
initially made the statement keeping

1506
01:18:29,030 --> 01:18:26,400
that in mind that they knew that

1507
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:29,040
high-neck would not go ahead and say

1508
01:18:34,700 --> 01:18:31,410
look there's nothing to these they're

1509
01:18:37,430 --> 01:18:34,710
not deserving of being investigated he

1510
01:18:39,940 --> 01:18:37,440
was invited to be an observer on the

1511
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:39,950
Robertson panel but not to participate

1512
01:18:47,540 --> 01:18:43,890
major Fernet he goes and details the

1513
01:18:50,229 --> 01:18:47,550
Robinson panel look these are the cases

1514
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:50,239
we have gone over we have done

1515
01:18:54,580 --> 01:18:52,530
investigation after investigation and we

1516
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:54,590
only have one conclusion after

1517
01:19:01,850 --> 01:18:57,330
eliminating all the others one by one

1518
01:19:05,810 --> 01:19:01,860
very meticulously and that is some UFOs

1519
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:05,820
are interplanetary spacecraft visiting

1520
01:19:14,500 --> 01:19:08,970
our planet and of course they rejected

1521
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:14,510
that the the report limits the best

1522
01:19:20,450 --> 01:19:18,330
parts about this is is the radar data

1523
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:20,460
and the conversations that were going on

1524
01:19:27,729 --> 01:19:22,530
in between the departments about that

1525
01:19:30,290 --> 01:19:27,739
data and how specific it was and then

1526
01:19:32,690 --> 01:19:30,300
it's mentioned in a few places in the

1527
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:32,700
reports so I'm taking it off of a page

1528
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:34,290
76 right here but it's also in the

1529
01:19:40,130 --> 01:19:37,890
opening that it was sporadic these

1530
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:40,140
sightings the radar data was

1531
01:19:46,550 --> 01:19:42,690
intermittent it was capable of dropping

1532
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:46,560
out of the pattern at will a creeping

1533
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:49,530
appearance that it just disappeared from

1534
01:19:54,770 --> 01:19:52,650
the scope that it was a solid objects

1535
01:19:59,120 --> 01:19:54,780
and that these were unidentified targets

1536
01:20:02,420 --> 01:19:59,130
being picked up of in the past four

1537
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:02,430
months and I'm quoting here it says four

1538
01:20:08,060 --> 01:20:05,250
months but never before were there so

1539
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:08,070
many as we're experienced on the nights

1540
01:20:16,430 --> 01:20:10,290
of the 19th and the 20th and the 26th

1541
01:20:18,340 --> 01:20:16,440
and the 27th July 1952 this is clear in

1542
01:20:21,140 --> 01:20:18,350
the report and you don't have to

1543
01:20:23,860 --> 01:20:21,150
interpret what they are writing here the

1544
01:20:26,959 --> 01:20:23,870
report is very clear into the point

1545
01:20:30,149 --> 01:20:26,969
absolutely let's uh let's go to the next

1546
01:20:35,629 --> 01:20:30,159
document before we hit the break which

1547
01:20:38,219 --> 01:20:35,639
is in order this one is titled

1548
01:20:42,270 --> 01:20:38,229
Department of Defense minutes of press

1549
01:20:44,129 --> 01:20:42,280
conference held by John Major General

1550
01:20:48,330 --> 01:20:44,139
Johnny Sanford and now the thing is

1551
01:20:50,699 --> 01:20:48,340
about this we have all including myself

1552
01:20:53,310 --> 01:20:50,709
I have seen this press conference many

1553
01:20:55,739 --> 01:20:53,320
times I watched pieces of it the other

1554
01:21:00,659 --> 01:20:55,749
day once again after speaking with you

1555
01:21:02,819 --> 01:21:00,669
also featured in the the documentary UFO

1556
01:21:05,489 --> 01:21:02,829
which came out when did that come out in

1557
01:21:07,379 --> 01:21:05,499
1950 that came out in 56 and to this day

1558
01:21:10,679 --> 01:21:07,389
I believe that is the best UFO

1559
01:21:14,489 --> 01:21:10,689
documentary yep-yep this the scene with

1560
01:21:15,779 --> 01:21:14,499
them the reenactment of the radar event

1561
01:21:21,350 --> 01:21:15,789
when they were looking at the radar

1562
01:21:24,449 --> 01:21:21,360
patterns on the scope was word-for-word

1563
01:21:25,049 --> 01:21:24,459
what went down in the radar room that

1564
01:21:28,879 --> 01:21:25,059
night

1565
01:21:32,179 --> 01:21:28,889
yes okay let's go through this document

1566
01:21:35,399 --> 01:21:32,189
I'm hoping everybody has got it open

1567
01:21:38,489 --> 01:21:35,409
here we go now this is minutes this is

1568
01:21:43,009 --> 01:21:38,499
the report from the press conference

1569
01:21:50,310 --> 01:21:43,019
which was held July 29 1952 at 4:00 p.m.

1570
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:50,320
room 3 e 869 in the Pentagon that is

1571
01:21:55,679 --> 01:21:52,570
correct and the whole situation is that

1572
01:21:59,399 --> 01:21:55,689
the media stings because this was

1573
01:22:02,399 --> 01:21:59,409
creating national news national concern

1574
01:22:04,649 --> 01:22:02,409
there was panic because of what happened

1575
01:22:06,419 --> 01:22:04,659
there there was fear because of what

1576
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:06,429
happened there so the Air Force had to

1577
01:22:12,449 --> 01:22:09,010
do something so they held this press

1578
01:22:14,129 --> 01:22:12,459
confidence assuring everyone that this

1579
01:22:15,989 --> 01:22:14,139
was nothing more than temperature

1580
01:22:19,379 --> 01:22:15,999
inversions malfunction of the radar

1581
01:22:22,890 --> 01:22:19,389
equipment and all of that good stuff but

1582
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:22,900
the situation is the blue Brook file

1583
01:22:29,310 --> 01:22:27,010
shows that was not the case but general

1584
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:29,320
Sanford had to do that later on we're

1585
01:22:34,140 --> 01:22:32,650
going to find out well while he was

1586
01:22:38,129 --> 01:22:34,150
briefing at the same time he was

1587
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:38,139
briefing the media about this and a

1588
01:22:43,849 --> 01:22:40,449
another room in the Pentagon about four

1589
01:22:46,339 --> 01:22:43,859
doors down the director

1590
01:22:48,709 --> 01:22:46,349
Central Intelligence was holding a

1591
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:48,719
briefing of his own talking to among

1592
01:22:54,849 --> 01:22:51,449
other people major fournaye in which

1593
01:22:59,629 --> 01:22:54,859
they were making it clear that they had

1594
01:23:03,219 --> 01:22:59,639
they had no conclusions as to what

1595
01:23:06,679 --> 01:23:03,229
really caused the sightings that night

1596
01:23:09,500 --> 01:23:06,689
of course major horn a once again had

1597
01:23:12,829 --> 01:23:09,510
already concluded some UFOs were

1598
01:23:16,699 --> 01:23:12,839
interplanetary what I love about this

1599
01:23:20,089 --> 01:23:16,709
document because we have only seen clips

1600
01:23:22,790 --> 01:23:20,099
from the press conference here you've

1601
01:23:27,229 --> 01:23:22,800
got all of the questions that were laid

1602
01:23:28,009 --> 01:23:27,239
out by the press and Sanford's responses

1603
01:23:30,919 --> 01:23:28,019
to them

1604
01:23:33,219 --> 01:23:30,929
it is much more detailed than the short

1605
01:23:36,770 --> 01:23:33,229
little clips that we have got out there

1606
01:23:38,569 --> 01:23:36,780
in YouTube land and and what we have

1607
01:23:41,569 --> 01:23:38,579
seen in like I said in the in the

1608
01:23:44,239 --> 01:23:41,579
documentary UFO this is some of the best

1609
01:23:48,469 --> 01:23:44,249
reading and I have no idea how many

1610
01:23:52,639 --> 01:23:48,479
pages is this guy this is it 40 pages 44

1611
01:23:58,089 --> 01:23:52,649
pages long and it is word-for-word of

1612
01:24:01,009 --> 01:23:58,099
the back and forth between not only now

1613
01:24:06,819 --> 01:24:01,019
we need to make note here General Roger

1614
01:24:09,949 --> 01:24:06,829
Ramey is there yep Donal Brewer is there

1615
01:24:12,049 --> 01:24:09,959
captain Roy James of the electronics

1616
01:24:15,679 --> 01:24:12,059
branch the air tactical intelligence

1617
01:24:19,369 --> 01:24:15,689
center right of course you've got a drew

1618
01:24:21,649 --> 01:24:19,379
Pelt and it's a it's an amazing document

1619
01:24:24,379 --> 01:24:21,659
and to go and read this back and forth

1620
01:24:27,699 --> 01:24:24,389
with the press the the country and the

1621
01:24:32,299 --> 01:24:27,709
press were very very very concerned and

1622
01:24:34,399 --> 01:24:32,309
the dance that these guys do compared to

1623
01:24:36,770 --> 01:24:34,409
what was written in the report and how

1624
01:24:38,959 --> 01:24:36,780
concerned they were in the report versus

1625
01:24:41,599 --> 01:24:38,969
how they dealt with the the public about

1626
01:24:44,239 --> 01:24:41,609
this it's two different situations 180

1627
01:24:46,729 --> 01:24:44,249
degrees apart oh absolutely I don't want

1628
01:24:50,979 --> 01:24:46,739
to get ahead myself in the documents to

1629
01:24:54,139 --> 01:24:50,989
make it a long story short these people

1630
01:24:55,579 --> 01:24:54,149
were creating a cover story therefore I

1631
01:24:57,380 --> 01:24:55,589
don't want to say they were lying but

1632
01:25:02,120 --> 01:24:57,390
they knew what they were stating

1633
01:25:06,260 --> 01:25:02,130
was not the truth and were not the faxes

1634
01:25:10,250 --> 01:25:06,270
they were known but they required to go

1635
01:25:15,020 --> 01:25:10,260
ahead and create this cover story to try

1636
01:25:18,350 --> 01:25:15,030
to go ahead and stem the the fear and on

1637
01:25:24,310 --> 01:25:18,360
near panic the public had about this one

1638
01:25:28,610 --> 01:25:24,320
night in July of 1952 but that one night

1639
01:25:31,700 --> 01:25:28,620
created a firestorm in the intelligence

1640
01:25:34,220 --> 01:25:31,710
community in Washington DC in which the

1641
01:25:38,780 --> 01:25:34,230
CIA who actually controls the UFO

1642
01:25:41,030 --> 01:25:38,790
programs period and the Office of

1643
01:25:43,730 --> 01:25:41,040
Scientific intelligence which is the

1644
01:25:47,020 --> 01:25:43,740
office that to this day within the CIA

1645
01:25:51,950 --> 01:25:47,030
controls all the information on UFOs

1646
01:25:54,770 --> 01:25:51,960
period how close were we between the

1647
01:25:59,180 --> 01:25:54,780
department's and and the president back

1648
01:26:02,480 --> 01:25:59,190
in 1952 to a full-blown disclosure who

1649
01:26:05,750 --> 01:26:02,490
was supporting it Oh everyone in the

1650
01:26:06,860 --> 01:26:05,760
intelligence community and the FBI as

1651
01:26:10,540 --> 01:26:06,870
you'll see in some of the other

1652
01:26:15,380 --> 01:26:10,550
documents was even concerned about the

1653
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:15,390
CIA covering up most of the information

1654
01:26:20,870 --> 01:26:19,410
on UFOs they had a person who is

1655
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:20,880
appointed to what we call the

1656
01:26:26,870 --> 01:26:23,930
intelligence advisory committee and

1657
01:26:28,220 --> 01:26:26,880
everyone in the intelligence advisory

1658
01:26:31,580 --> 01:26:28,230
committee says look there's something

1659
01:26:33,380 --> 01:26:31,590
going on and you know even the partner

1660
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:33,390
defense is coming in says look we need

1661
01:26:40,670 --> 01:26:37,530
to be able to expedite our methods so we

1662
01:26:44,480 --> 01:26:40,680
can quickly and rapidly identify these

1663
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:44,490
unknowns to determine whether we have a

1664
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:46,890
problem or we don't have a problem but

1665
01:26:52,370 --> 01:26:49,170
you know it's the process right now it's

1666
01:26:57,790 --> 01:26:52,380
in slow we need to go ahead and be able

1667
01:27:01,970 --> 01:26:57,800
to rapidly respond to UFO reports and

1668
01:27:05,300 --> 01:27:01,980
get people and honest conclusions as to

1669
01:27:07,930 --> 01:27:05,310
what they are and what's causing the the

1670
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:07,940
director of central intelligence agency

1671
01:27:13,580 --> 01:27:11,130
did not want this to happen

1672
01:27:19,189 --> 01:27:13,590
did not want the pillar come out we were

1673
01:27:24,020 --> 01:27:19,199
so close that it was dead reckoning that

1674
01:27:28,629 --> 01:27:24,030
he had to convince the IAC the

1675
01:27:33,379 --> 01:27:31,340
forget about getting the National

1676
01:27:37,189 --> 01:27:33,389
Security Council involved where they

1677
01:27:40,100 --> 01:27:37,199
would go ahead and issue a National

1678
01:27:43,669 --> 01:27:40,110
Security Council intelligence directive

1679
01:27:45,890 --> 01:27:43,679
had that happened the entire

1680
01:27:48,350 --> 01:27:45,900
intelligence community would be working

1681
01:27:50,810 --> 01:27:48,360
on answers and solutions to the UFO

1682
01:27:53,810 --> 01:27:50,820
problem which the answers and solutions

1683
01:27:56,629 --> 01:27:53,820
was already there but they would now be

1684
01:28:00,140 --> 01:27:56,639
formulated with not just a little of us

1685
01:28:03,229 --> 01:28:00,150
there at wright-patterson given lip

1686
01:28:05,689 --> 01:28:03,239
service who you have no reports but the

1687
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:05,699
actual hard data that was being

1688
01:28:13,490 --> 01:28:08,850
collected and analyzed would now be part

1689
01:28:15,860 --> 01:28:13,500
of a finalized intelligence product that

1690
01:28:19,310 --> 01:28:15,870
I'm sorry would have been leaked to the

1691
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:19,320
media and the truth would be out let's

1692
01:28:22,700 --> 01:28:21,090
take a break right here Clifford we got

1693
01:28:23,540 --> 01:28:22,710
to do it we'll take a quick commercial

1694
01:28:25,580 --> 01:28:23,550
break

1695
01:28:27,860 --> 01:28:25,590
this is fade to black when we come back

1696
01:28:30,500 --> 01:28:27,870
we're going in order down the document

1697
01:28:32,899 --> 01:28:30,510
list off of Jimmy Church radio comm

1698
01:28:34,399 --> 01:28:32,909
we're gonna check out document number

1699
01:28:37,100 --> 01:28:34,409
three a preliminary study of

1700
01:28:41,060 --> 01:28:37,110
unidentified targets observed on air

1701
01:28:42,740 --> 01:28:41,070
traffic control radars it's an amazing

1702
01:28:45,229 --> 01:28:42,750
read our guests and I Clifford stone on

1703
01:28:46,440 --> 01:28:45,239
disclosure this is fade to black stay

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01:28:52,590 --> 01:28:46,450
with us

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01:28:59,070 --> 01:28:55,800
way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

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with Jimmy Church on the game changer

1779
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:25,020
Network hi I'm Lisa Vance you're

1780
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:27,090
listening to Jimmy Church this is a

1781
01:32:31,290 --> 01:32:28,330
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the revolution will not be televised the

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01:32:38,780 --> 01:33:17,280
[Music]

1784
01:33:22,900 --> 01:33:20,950
welcome back coach coast-to-coast look

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01:33:27,750 --> 01:33:22,910
at back face to black

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01:33:30,130 --> 01:33:27,760
ah yes I did I was hell

1787
01:33:32,620 --> 01:33:30,140
fade to black coming hosting me Church I

1788
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:32,630
guess tonight Clifford stone and we are

1789
01:33:38,470 --> 01:33:34,730
discussing disclosure and what was going

1790
01:33:40,450 --> 01:33:38,480
down with the huge UFO sighting that

1791
01:33:44,500 --> 01:33:40,460
happened over in Washington DC back in

1792
01:33:47,500 --> 01:33:44,510
July of 1952 and Clifford we are at a

1793
01:33:50,650 --> 01:33:47,510
document number three a preliminary

1794
01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:50,660
study of unidentified targets observed

1795
01:33:58,030 --> 01:33:54,170
on air traffic control radars by Richard

1796
01:34:01,210 --> 01:33:58,040
C Borden electronics division and Terry

1797
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:01,220
K Vickers navigation aids evaluation

1798
01:34:05,890 --> 01:34:03,290
division technical department report

1799
01:34:08,980 --> 01:34:05,900
number one eighty what do we get in this

1800
01:34:14,730 --> 01:34:08,990
document okay this is where they did an

1801
01:34:19,330 --> 01:34:14,740
analysis of the UFOs for the month of

1802
01:34:25,060 --> 01:34:19,340
July and even going into August you'll

1803
01:34:28,270 --> 01:34:25,070
note 1960 are there were 68 UFOs I think

1804
01:34:30,790 --> 01:34:28,280
was on the night of August 13 that one

1805
01:34:31,990 --> 01:34:30,800
over Washington DC and of course they

1806
01:34:33,910 --> 01:34:32,000
were hitting up on all these being

1807
01:34:35,830 --> 01:34:33,920
tampered current versions they had one

1808
01:34:37,770 --> 01:34:35,840
object that was doing maybe a hundred

1809
01:34:40,330 --> 01:34:37,780
and ten miles and they decided that

1810
01:34:43,710 --> 01:34:40,340
possibly was an aircraft but once again

1811
01:34:46,900 --> 01:34:43,720
this report goes against what the

1812
01:34:48,970 --> 01:34:46,910
experts not just you know some kid that

1813
01:34:52,900 --> 01:34:48,980
joined the Air Force and became a radar

1814
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:52,910
technician but experts in the UFO are in

1815
01:35:01,330 --> 01:34:55,970
the electronics field that were experts

1816
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:01,340
on radar having to say in the first

1817
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:04,010
document dealing with the project

1818
01:35:08,890 --> 01:35:05,930
Bluebook file the UFO sightings on that

1819
01:35:11,110 --> 01:35:08,900
particular night but they're trying to

1820
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:11,120
downplay it once again they had to

1821
01:35:15,250 --> 01:35:13,730
downplay it I don't know for sure but

1822
01:35:19,780 --> 01:35:15,260
I'm of the opinion that these people

1823
01:35:24,370 --> 01:35:19,790
also were directed to be less than

1824
01:35:26,170 --> 01:35:24,380
truthful in what they were telling the

1825
01:35:30,279 --> 01:35:26,180
public because this was not a classified

1826
01:35:34,390 --> 01:35:30,289
report it would be available to the

1827
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:34,400
so once again they won what the press

1828
01:35:42,669 --> 01:35:37,130
conference said they wanted this to go

1829
01:35:47,589 --> 01:35:42,679
ahead and support what general Sanford

1830
01:35:49,959 --> 01:35:47,599
said at the press conference so they did

1831
01:35:52,330 --> 01:35:49,969
a good job on that so now you got two

1832
01:35:56,379 --> 01:35:52,340
documents out there trying to squelch

1833
01:36:02,129 --> 01:35:56,389
what's going on yet behind the scenes no

1834
01:36:06,609 --> 01:36:02,139
one no one knew what was going down with

1835
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:06,619
the debate and discussions within the

1836
01:36:12,339 --> 01:36:09,050
intelligence Advisory Committee

1837
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:12,349
yeah what's great here is a page nine

1838
01:36:19,060 --> 01:36:15,170
page nine in this document and it goes

1839
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:19,070
right back to the scene of the

1840
01:36:27,729 --> 01:36:22,489
documentary UFO which came out 1956 this

1841
01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:27,739
is exactly what I remember seeing in the

1842
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:31,489
recreation of and also page 12 too as

1843
01:36:38,850 --> 01:36:34,730
well of that famous scene from the movie

1844
01:36:43,089 --> 01:36:38,860
in 1956 but what is interesting here

1845
01:36:46,450 --> 01:36:43,099
Clifford is that temperature inversions

1846
01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:46,460
aren't cited on the ground and in

1847
01:36:53,709 --> 01:36:51,050
airplanes and causing phone calls to go

1848
01:36:55,209 --> 01:36:53,719
into the Pentagon asking about the

1849
01:37:01,600 --> 01:36:55,219
sightings that are happening right now

1850
01:37:03,399 --> 01:37:01,610
over Washington DC absolutely and I mean

1851
01:37:06,220 --> 01:37:03,409
no one heard of ball lightning until the

1852
01:37:10,959 --> 01:37:06,230
word was invented right to try to cover

1853
01:37:12,729 --> 01:37:10,969
up UFOs and even to this day we and as a

1854
01:37:15,910 --> 01:37:12,739
result of events that happened on board

1855
01:37:20,709 --> 01:37:15,920
a submarine in 1967 where they were

1856
01:37:25,890 --> 01:37:20,719
hitting up on a battery there and one of

1857
01:37:28,540 --> 01:37:25,900
the big I don't know what they call on

1858
01:37:32,140 --> 01:37:28,550
oceanographic batteries on a submarine

1859
01:37:36,430 --> 01:37:32,150
they were connected at arc so they took

1860
01:37:37,959 --> 01:37:36,440
pictures of when an arc these balls of

1861
01:37:41,890 --> 01:37:37,969
light dancing around which were

1862
01:37:44,020 --> 01:37:41,900
electrical sparks essentially being

1863
01:37:45,940 --> 01:37:44,030
thrown off the battery but

1864
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:45,950
we're spiritual shape and of course they

1865
01:37:55,950 --> 01:37:49,690
came up and here's proof that lightning

1866
01:37:59,590 --> 01:37:55,960
exists at one point we were researching

1867
01:38:03,100 --> 01:37:59,600
the possibility of using burl lightning

1868
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:03,110
and a weapon and I bet you very few

1869
01:38:07,270 --> 01:38:05,810
people know about that but I have the

1870
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:07,280
documentation back me up on one thing

1871
01:38:19,420 --> 01:38:11,090
there now we're gonna go to the next one

1872
01:38:22,300 --> 01:38:19,430
which is the O or our diary and it it's

1873
01:38:24,190 --> 01:38:22,310
a little out of order I believe and it's

1874
01:38:27,190 --> 01:38:24,200
a low yell like I say there was over

1875
01:38:29,860 --> 01:38:27,200
there's over a hundred documents I have

1876
01:38:31,810 --> 01:38:29,870
dealing with just this this is I'll tell

1877
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:31,820
you right now I'm being inspired to try

1878
01:38:38,230 --> 01:38:36,410
to write a new book based on this based

1879
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:38,240
on the fact that disclosure almost

1880
01:38:45,850 --> 01:38:40,810
happening and this this is a CIA

1881
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:45,860
document the Oh diary and this is dated

1882
01:38:57,790 --> 01:38:52,570
July 31st 1952 labeled secret but

1883
01:39:03,820 --> 01:38:57,800
approved for release back in a 2000 and

1884
01:39:06,490 --> 01:39:03,830
take that what is the ORR I'm not sure

1885
01:39:12,310 --> 01:39:06,500
what the O R really stands for I'm sorry

1886
01:39:13,030 --> 01:39:12,320
about that but it's the office of some

1887
01:39:15,090 --> 01:39:13,040
type of research

1888
01:39:20,470 --> 01:39:15,100
we're ties in with the Office of

1889
01:39:22,750 --> 01:39:20,480
Scientific intelligence now this

1890
01:39:27,390 --> 01:39:22,760
document is important because it's

1891
01:39:33,100 --> 01:39:30,100
actually for that whole week but if you

1892
01:39:35,770 --> 01:39:33,110
go to page two about halfway down the

1893
01:39:39,490 --> 01:39:35,780
document you will come to a part there

1894
01:39:43,270 --> 01:39:39,500
that took takes place at the same time

1895
01:39:48,100 --> 01:39:43,280
that general Sanford is giving his press

1896
01:39:52,210 --> 01:39:48,110
conference there the director of Central

1897
01:39:53,890 --> 01:39:52,220
Intelligence is briefing and being

1898
01:39:56,050 --> 01:39:53,900
briefed by several other people within

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01:39:57,370 --> 01:39:56,060
the intelligence community one of those

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01:40:03,640 --> 01:39:57,380
is major Fernet

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01:40:06,490 --> 01:40:03,650
and the CIA people CI a-- director

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01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:06,500
included is telling the people who are

1903
01:40:13,810 --> 01:40:09,970
being briefed there that they have no

1904
01:40:18,010 --> 01:40:13,820
conclusions as to what really caused the

1905
01:40:21,850 --> 01:40:18,020
sightings of the UFO sightings on the

1906
01:40:24,430 --> 01:40:21,860
night of july 26 and 27 because within

1907
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:24,440
the intelligence community at a

1908
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:28,610
top-secret level there is major concern

1909
01:40:33,090 --> 01:40:31,610
and major questions being asked by

1910
01:40:35,830 --> 01:40:33,100
people on high places

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01:40:39,300 --> 01:40:35,840
so here it is they're putting this out

1912
01:40:45,510 --> 01:40:39,310
this is going to be the start of from

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01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:45,520
july all the way into january of 53

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01:40:51,070 --> 01:40:49,210
trying to formulate a conclusion on how

1915
01:40:53,980 --> 01:40:51,080
to go ahead and get the entire

1916
01:40:56,620 --> 01:40:53,990
intelligence community involved in UFO

1917
01:40:58,690 --> 01:40:56,630
research something that the director of

1918
01:41:02,590 --> 01:40:58,700
central intelligence did not want that

1919
01:41:05,860 --> 01:41:02,600
happen it says here it's right in the

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01:41:09,250 --> 01:41:05,870
middle of page two visited visited with

1921
01:41:12,580 --> 01:41:09,260
major dewey fournette topical division

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01:41:15,210 --> 01:41:12,590
Directorate of intelligence USAF oh and

1923
01:41:18,910 --> 01:41:15,220
I and discuss the increase in

1924
01:41:23,470 --> 01:41:18,920
unidentified flying object reports there

1925
01:41:25,390 --> 01:41:23,480
were no conclusions and the meeting was

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01:41:30,390 --> 01:41:25,400
for a half hour and that was on July

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01:41:32,470 --> 01:41:30,400
29th if they're at the same time as the

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01:41:34,930 --> 01:41:32,480
press conference is being held

1929
01:41:38,380 --> 01:41:34,940
approximately four doors down from where

1930
01:41:39,610 --> 01:41:38,390
the press conference was I wonder what

1931
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:39,620
would have happened if one of those

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01:41:44,290 --> 01:41:42,530
newsmen accidentally went into the wrong

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01:41:48,810 --> 01:41:44,300
room and heard what was being said in

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01:41:53,620 --> 01:41:48,820
this particular room right right I

1935
01:41:55,660 --> 01:41:53,630
cannot I can only imagine Clifford these

1936
01:41:58,930 --> 01:41:55,670
conversations that were going on at the

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01:42:02,560 --> 01:41:58,940
Pentagon back then that and with the CIA

1938
01:42:04,420 --> 01:42:02,570
all the way to the White House and you

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01:42:06,670 --> 01:42:04,430
know sir we're in the same situation

1940
01:42:11,319 --> 01:42:06,680
right now within the intelligence

1941
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:11,329
community as they were back then you

1942
01:42:18,089 --> 01:42:15,290
have a group of people who know the

1943
01:42:20,530 --> 01:42:18,099
truth and want that to be brought out

1944
01:42:23,399 --> 01:42:20,540
you have a group of people which

1945
01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:23,409
unfortunately has a powers-that-be in

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01:42:29,799 --> 01:42:26,449
that group that still wants to keep

1947
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:29,809
under wraps but there's a struggle there

1948
01:42:34,060 --> 01:42:31,010
and that's a good thing because

1949
01:42:37,149 --> 01:42:34,070
ultimately I hope good wins out and the

1950
01:42:40,450 --> 01:42:37,159
truth comes out but this right here it's

1951
01:42:43,899 --> 01:42:40,460
a start because people don't believe

1952
01:42:48,810 --> 01:42:43,909
that there is ever a period of time in

1953
01:42:53,709 --> 01:42:48,820
which the truth almost came out and

1954
01:42:57,399 --> 01:42:53,719
actually we rest assured here again with

1955
01:42:59,049 --> 01:42:57,409
it possibly coming out because there are

1956
01:43:02,169 --> 01:42:59,059
other people other just being that are

1957
01:43:06,990 --> 01:43:02,179
trying to get the documentation on the

1958
01:43:09,879 --> 01:43:07,000
research that was being done on the

1959
01:43:12,010 --> 01:43:09,889
unconventional aircraft that they were

1960
01:43:15,580 --> 01:43:12,020
told to watch and also they were told

1961
01:43:17,830 --> 01:43:15,590
you know even if you you know think that

1962
01:43:21,490 --> 01:43:17,840
the season five star that they're making

1963
01:43:23,379 --> 01:43:21,500
erratic maneuvers you reports that don't

1964
01:43:26,709 --> 01:43:23,389
go ahead and try to make conclusions in

1965
01:43:29,260 --> 01:43:26,719
your own mind ways happen but you know

1966
01:43:31,030 --> 01:43:29,270
the whole situation is they were doing

1967
01:43:35,020 --> 01:43:31,040
research and they've been doing it for a

1968
01:43:38,430 --> 01:43:35,030
long time even the CIA had directives on

1969
01:43:45,669 --> 01:43:38,440
how to do this research on

1970
01:43:47,910 --> 01:43:45,679
unconventional aircraft let's go to two

1971
01:43:51,430 --> 01:43:47,920
weeks later after the press conference

1972
01:43:56,709 --> 01:43:51,440
is this next document which is dated the

1973
01:44:00,520 --> 01:43:56,719
14th of August 1952 entitled flying

1974
01:44:04,359 --> 01:44:00,530
saucers again stamped secret and then

1975
01:44:10,359 --> 01:44:04,369
approved for release in 2001 what do we

1976
01:44:13,060 --> 01:44:10,369
get in this document well oh let's say

1977
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:13,070
there's three documents they're in the

1978
01:44:20,500 --> 01:44:18,770
park for section and these are documents

1979
01:44:24,910 --> 01:44:20,510
that show that shows that there truly

1980
01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:24,920
was a concern about UFOs being

1981
01:44:38,470 --> 01:44:31,489
I and a intelligence issue that there

1982
01:44:41,290 --> 01:44:38,480
was concerns about UFOs being concerns

1983
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:41,300
for how they could be used even for

1984
01:44:47,620 --> 01:44:44,210
psychological warfare people were trying

1985
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:47,630
to downplay that and the whole situation

1986
01:44:53,200 --> 01:44:50,810
is there was no downplaying it because

1987
01:44:54,729 --> 01:44:53,210
we saw where we could use it there was

1988
01:44:58,900 --> 01:44:54,739
concerns that the Russians might see

1989
01:45:03,669 --> 01:44:58,910
whether they could use it and major

1990
01:45:06,630 --> 01:45:03,679
effort was being made to show the

1991
01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:06,640
intelligence community the Intel are the

1992
01:45:13,810 --> 01:45:10,130
intelligence advisory committee actually

1993
01:45:18,090 --> 01:45:13,820
what was going on it says here this is

1994
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:18,100
an incredible statement in this document

1995
01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:21,050
where they go on they talk about the

1996
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:24,530
July 29th Argentan general Samford press

1997
01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:26,090
conference in which he stated that the

1998
01:45:29,830 --> 01:45:27,890
analysis shows no pattern of anything

1999
01:45:32,740 --> 01:45:29,840
remotely consistent with any menace to

2000
01:45:34,870 --> 01:45:32,750
the United States they go on to say at

2001
01:45:37,180 --> 01:45:34,880
this point OSI felt that it would be

2002
01:45:39,520 --> 01:45:37,190
timely to make an evaluation of the Air

2003
01:45:42,010 --> 01:45:39,530
Force study its methodology and coverage

2004
01:45:44,130 --> 01:45:42,020
the relation of its conclusions to

2005
01:45:47,590 --> 01:45:44,140
various theories which have been

2006
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:47,600
propounded and to try to reach some

2007
01:45:53,110 --> 01:45:49,850
conclusion as to the intelligence

2008
01:45:57,459 --> 01:45:53,120
implications of the problem in view of

2009
01:46:00,430 --> 01:45:57,469
the wide interest within the agency CIA

2010
01:46:04,209 --> 01:46:00,440
this briefing has been arranged so that

2011
01:46:06,610 --> 01:46:04,219
we could report on the survey it must be

2012
01:46:08,860 --> 01:46:06,620
mentioned that outside knowledge of

2013
01:46:11,140 --> 01:46:08,870
agency interest in flying saucers

2014
01:46:13,930 --> 01:46:11,150
carries the risk of making the problem

2015
01:46:18,459 --> 01:46:13,940
even more serious in the public mind

2016
01:46:24,910 --> 01:46:18,469
than it already is which we and airforce

2017
01:46:27,490 --> 01:46:24,920
agree must be avoided yep that somebody

2018
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:27,500
was trying to convince the IAC at that

2019
01:46:33,100 --> 01:46:31,370
time to stop it we don't need to go any

2020
01:46:35,860 --> 01:46:33,110
further it's being handled taken care of

2021
01:46:38,510 --> 01:46:35,870
by appropriate authorities and people so

2022
01:46:41,729 --> 01:46:38,520
we don't need to discuss this anymore

2023
01:46:43,290 --> 01:46:41,739
fortunately there were members of the

2024
01:46:46,530 --> 01:46:43,300
intelligence advisory committee that

2025
01:46:48,689 --> 01:46:46,540
felt that there was something going on

2026
01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:48,699
and it needed to be discussed and also

2027
01:46:54,419 --> 01:46:51,489
we needed to get the entire intelligence

2028
01:46:58,080 --> 01:46:54,429
community involved which at that time it

2029
01:47:01,500 --> 01:46:58,090
was not and why bother we already knew

2030
01:47:04,620 --> 01:47:01,510
the truth this is this is an incredible

2031
01:47:06,870 --> 01:47:04,630
document it says in order to supply both

2032
01:47:09,630 --> 01:47:06,880
breadth and depth to the survey we have

2033
01:47:12,180 --> 01:47:09,640
reviewed our own intelligence going back

2034
01:47:14,910 --> 01:47:12,190
to the Swedish sightings of 1946

2035
01:47:16,890 --> 01:47:14,920
reviewed a large number of individual

2036
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:16,900
official reports recent press and

2037
01:47:21,899 --> 01:47:19,330
magazine coverage in the main popular

2038
01:47:24,390 --> 01:47:21,909
books indexes of Soviet press were

2039
01:47:26,250 --> 01:47:24,400
scanned we interviewed a representative

2040
01:47:28,950 --> 01:47:26,260
of air force special study group

2041
01:47:30,780 --> 01:47:28,960
following this we spent a day at Wright

2042
01:47:33,540 --> 01:47:30,790
Field in a thorough discussion with

2043
01:47:35,430 --> 01:47:33,550
officers conducting the apic study and

2044
01:47:37,979 --> 01:47:35,440
finally we took the problem to a

2045
01:47:40,290 --> 01:47:37,989
selected group of our own consultants

2046
01:47:42,959 --> 01:47:40,300
all leaders in their scientific fields

2047
01:47:45,510 --> 01:47:42,969
from this we have come up with facts

2048
01:47:48,030 --> 01:47:45,520
theories and explanations and some

2049
01:47:52,410 --> 01:47:48,040
conclusions which we will cover in a

2050
01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:52,420
brief summary of flying of flying

2051
01:47:57,689 --> 01:47:55,570
saucers history an analysis of the 80 IC

2052
01:47:59,550 --> 01:47:57,699
work and a discussion of the explain

2053
01:48:02,360 --> 01:47:59,560
sightings and all possible theories

2054
01:48:05,939 --> 01:48:02,370
regarding the unexplained we make no

2055
01:48:11,780 --> 01:48:05,949
recommendations of actions we would ask

2056
01:48:14,100 --> 01:48:11,790
that questions be held till the end Wow

2057
01:48:18,540 --> 01:48:14,110
that's the second document the first

2058
01:48:22,200 --> 01:48:18,550
document that was there because there's

2059
01:48:31,410 --> 01:48:22,210
three documents involved in part four

2060
01:48:33,180 --> 01:48:31,420
there the first document and and while

2061
01:48:33,810 --> 01:48:33,190
you're doing that it's pretty

2062
01:48:36,740 --> 01:48:33,820
interesting

2063
01:48:39,450 --> 01:48:36,750
here that they mentioned Kenneth Arnold

2064
01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:39,460
yeah they mentioned Kenneth Arnold a

2065
01:48:45,890 --> 01:48:41,890
nine disc flying information past Mount

2066
01:48:49,930 --> 01:48:45,900
Rainier then they mentioned a July 1947

2067
01:48:51,970 --> 01:48:49,940
from a doctor in Phoenix Arizona

2068
01:48:54,129 --> 01:48:51,980
I'm wondering if that was roads the

2069
01:48:57,850 --> 01:48:54,139
pilot and co-pilot of a united airliner

2070
01:49:01,899 --> 01:48:57,860
in Boise Idaho and field staff members

2071
01:49:03,820 --> 01:49:01,909
at Muroc test base in California these

2072
01:49:07,629 --> 01:49:03,830
are all sightings and they go back and

2073
01:49:10,629 --> 01:49:07,639
mention Sweden the they talk about

2074
01:49:13,300 --> 01:49:10,639
leaving important yes it is and the

2075
01:49:17,290 --> 01:49:13,310
January 1948 interception was attempted

2076
01:49:19,660 --> 01:49:17,300
at Goldman Field Kentucky that of course

2077
01:49:24,070 --> 01:49:19,670
I can tell were killed there yep captain

2078
01:49:24,700 --> 01:49:24,080
man tell they bring a Fargo no North

2079
01:49:28,660 --> 01:49:24,710
Dakota

2080
01:49:30,930 --> 01:49:28,670
there's a whole list of sightings here

2081
01:49:37,169 --> 01:49:30,940
you know what's missing

2082
01:49:40,089 --> 01:49:37,179
Roswell very that that that was the key

2083
01:49:43,689 --> 01:49:40,099
the whole situation is people who knew

2084
01:49:46,959 --> 01:49:43,699
about the recovery of debris and even

2085
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:46,969
dead aliens people who knew about this

2086
01:49:54,750 --> 01:49:50,810
stuff was always caution you cannot go

2087
01:49:59,820 --> 01:49:54,760
ahead and conclude that UFOs have

2088
01:50:04,839 --> 01:49:59,830
interplanetary origin without quote

2089
01:50:06,729 --> 01:50:04,849
physical proof physical hardware now the

2090
01:50:09,689 --> 01:50:06,739
people who knew that that was in these

2091
01:50:12,910 --> 01:50:09,699
committees they knew it but here again

2092
01:50:17,140 --> 01:50:12,920
if you were going to be talking about

2093
01:50:20,649 --> 01:50:17,150
something that top secret compartments

2094
01:50:24,970 --> 01:50:20,659
and considered to be a special access

2095
01:50:28,330 --> 01:50:24,980
programs you could not talk openly about

2096
01:50:30,609 --> 01:50:28,340
those or even bring them up unless you

2097
01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:30,619
know everyone in there is cleared for

2098
01:50:35,339 --> 01:50:31,489
that information

2099
01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:35,349
so that never happened and the first

2100
01:50:44,609 --> 01:50:37,810
document that you would have there was

2101
01:50:47,350 --> 01:50:44,619
entitled intelligence advisory committee

2102
01:50:49,510 --> 01:50:47,360
unidentified flying objects as the title

2103
01:50:51,729 --> 01:50:49,520
underneath out in parentheses flying

2104
01:51:00,959 --> 01:50:51,739
saucers now this is where they went

2105
01:51:02,020 --> 01:51:00,969
ahead and breathe the secretary the ddic

2106
01:51:04,540 --> 01:51:02,030
but

2107
01:51:07,060 --> 01:51:04,550
of course secretary Lovett would later

2108
01:51:09,279 --> 01:51:07,070
become head of the National Security

2109
01:51:12,339 --> 01:51:09,289
Council and that's why you had that

2110
01:51:19,890 --> 01:51:12,349
little handwritten in enclosures at the

2111
01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:19,900
top that says ultimately the the NSC and

2112
01:51:26,439 --> 01:51:22,250
I don't know how many pages are in here

2113
01:51:28,180 --> 01:51:26,449
but around forty I'd say but that's got

2114
01:51:31,270 --> 01:51:28,190
some very interesting information in it

2115
01:51:34,260 --> 01:51:31,280
and of course this right here was the

2116
01:51:38,290 --> 01:51:34,270
document that started to get the I

2117
01:51:41,919 --> 01:51:38,300
ignore the IAC the intelligence advisory

2118
01:51:45,939 --> 01:51:41,929
committee moving forward was trying to

2119
01:51:48,549 --> 01:51:45,949
get the NFC involved which once again I

2120
01:51:51,240 --> 01:51:48,559
have stress the director Central

2121
01:51:55,839 --> 01:51:51,250
Intelligence did not want that to happen

2122
01:52:01,089 --> 01:51:55,849
anyone UFOs we played down there there's

2123
01:52:03,729 --> 01:52:01,099
a couple of very interesting incidents

2124
01:52:06,790 --> 01:52:03,739
that are in this document the August

2125
01:52:09,310 --> 01:52:06,800
14th document and they talked about to

2126
01:52:14,529 --> 01:52:09,320
12 it there's a whole load of them and

2127
01:52:15,939 --> 01:52:14,539
one of them was in Sandy Hook and so

2128
01:52:19,270 --> 01:52:15,949
they talked about that but then they

2129
01:52:23,410 --> 01:52:19,280
continued and then it says the 30 q a

2130
01:52:26,529 --> 01:52:23,420
the third occurred a few days ago at

2131
01:52:31,029 --> 01:52:26,539
Wright Field and has not yet been fully

2132
01:52:36,250 --> 01:52:31,039
analyzed to f94 s with gun cameras were

2133
01:52:38,979 --> 01:52:36,260
vectored in on on a blip both pilots

2134
01:52:42,850 --> 01:52:38,989
cited the object and one locked on with

2135
01:52:45,819 --> 01:52:42,860
his AI equipment reaching a maximum

2136
01:52:52,919 --> 01:52:45,829
allowable altitude he triggered his gun

2137
01:52:59,229 --> 01:52:55,209
these are amazing if you're not finding

2138
01:53:02,229 --> 01:52:59,239
that Dylan today in the film library it

2139
01:53:04,740 --> 01:53:02,239
was never sent to Blue Book it was sent

2140
01:53:07,529 --> 01:53:04,750
to the national photo interpretation

2141
01:53:12,339 --> 01:53:07,539
laboratories there at wright-patterson

2142
01:53:17,220 --> 01:53:12,349
later it was sent on in Washington DC to

2143
01:53:22,660 --> 01:53:19,660
there's another report in here I've

2144
01:53:25,690 --> 01:53:22,670
never heard about this one there's a few

2145
01:53:29,580 --> 01:53:25,700
in here one that an object was sighted

2146
01:53:36,390 --> 01:53:29,590
over white sands on radar traveling at

2147
01:53:40,690 --> 01:53:36,400
18,000 miles per hour and yet there was

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01:53:43,510 --> 01:53:40,700
heat in that world typically yes it was

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01:53:47,440 --> 01:53:43,520
it was all of the everything that is in

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01:53:53,020 --> 01:53:47,450
this report was between July and August

2151
01:53:56,770 --> 01:53:53,030
14th of 1947 absolutely I can't prove

2152
01:53:59,770 --> 01:53:56,780
right now was that the president wanted

2153
01:54:03,100 --> 01:53:59,780
to be fully briefed and I got the

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01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:03,110
document somewhere where it's surfaced

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01:54:12,580 --> 01:54:08,930
again in 57 where a general had to brief

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01:54:14,830 --> 01:54:12,590
another general because the general he

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01:54:16,870 --> 01:54:14,840
breathed was going to breathe the

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01:54:20,910 --> 01:54:16,880
President of the United States who at

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01:54:27,100 --> 01:54:23,890
Eisenhower avoided you know talking

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01:54:31,959 --> 01:54:27,110
about UFOs but Eisenhower was very

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01:54:34,450 --> 01:54:31,969
interested we need to we need to get to

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01:54:37,780 --> 01:54:34,460
a break let's go to this next document

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01:54:41,740 --> 01:54:37,790
which I have open here which is dated

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01:54:45,180 --> 01:54:41,750
October 11th intelligence advisory

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01:54:48,790 --> 01:54:45,190
committee flying objects flying saucers

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01:54:50,790 --> 01:54:48,800
stamped a top-secret set us up for this

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01:54:53,830 --> 01:54:50,800
and we'll talk about it after the break

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01:54:57,760 --> 01:54:53,840
okay sir let me see if I can run that

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01:55:00,120 --> 01:54:57,770
way this is October 11th which is oddly

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enough the day after my birthday

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01:55:06,330 --> 01:55:04,280
and attached is a proposed letter to the

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01:55:08,290 --> 01:55:06,340
secretary loved' from the DCI

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recommending the initiation of

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01:55:13,080 --> 01:55:09,950
fundamental scientific research with

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01:55:15,670 --> 01:55:13,090
respect to the nature and causes of

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01:55:19,390 --> 01:55:15,680
unidentified flying object flying

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01:55:23,110 --> 01:55:19,400
saucers oh yeah this this right here was

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01:55:27,510 --> 01:55:23,120
the first orientation of the and and

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01:55:29,570 --> 01:55:27,520
Ally intelligence advisory committee to

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try to go ahead and

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01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:31,620
work on a system in which the entire

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01:55:36,170 --> 01:55:33,530
intelligence community to be involved

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01:55:40,580 --> 01:55:36,180
and that's the one I said was about 30

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01:55:44,210 --> 01:55:40,590
pages but this is a crucial document

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01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:44,220
right here because it started you know

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01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:48,810
conversation within the IAC about UFOs

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01:55:57,830 --> 01:55:53,690
and about the need to go ahead and get

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01:56:01,370 --> 01:55:57,840
it to where we can rapidly identify the

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01:56:04,220 --> 01:56:01,380
UFOs to where they're not as threatening

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01:56:05,960 --> 01:56:04,230
to the public per se but also they were

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01:56:08,210 --> 01:56:05,970
trying to make it clear we don't know

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01:56:10,640 --> 01:56:08,220
what they are they appear to be under

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01:56:13,040 --> 01:56:10,650
intelligent control and they're

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01:56:16,580 --> 01:56:13,050
exhibiting technology that we might

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01:56:20,180 --> 01:56:16,590
understand but we don't know how to

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01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:20,190
replicate and of course this again was

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01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:25,290
to make an effort to get that National

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01:56:29,570 --> 01:56:26,970
Security Council intelligence directive

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issued to where the entire intelligence

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community would be involved which the

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01:56:37,550 --> 01:56:35,730
CIA did not want to do a lot of people

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01:56:42,140 --> 01:56:37,560
may not be aware of this but j edgar

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01:56:45,200 --> 01:56:42,150
hoover has the FBI was very interested

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01:56:48,080 --> 01:56:45,210
in UFOs and clearly believed that the

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01:56:49,340 --> 01:56:48,090
CIA was covering up UFOs and one of the

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01:56:52,070 --> 01:56:49,350
things that he learned from one of the

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01:56:55,430 --> 01:56:52,080
people who sat in on the IAT one of the

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01:56:58,220 --> 01:56:55,440
FBI agents he reported back to j edgar

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hoover that there were many people in

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the pentagon that believed some UFOs

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01:57:06,440 --> 01:57:04,980
were in fact extraterrestrial vehicle

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01:57:08,840 --> 01:57:06,450
he'll be getting as those documents here

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01:57:12,290 --> 01:57:08,850
very shortly this right here this top

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01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:12,300
this one document this is a document

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that

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01:57:18,830 --> 01:57:17,760
additionally got things started to where

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01:57:21,260 --> 01:57:18,840
the IAC

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01:57:24,470 --> 01:57:21,270
was saying okay we've had enough baloney

2219
01:57:28,880 --> 01:57:24,480
coming over here we need to address this

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01:57:32,540 --> 01:57:28,890
issue and from this day forward all the

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01:57:33,740 --> 01:57:32,550
way to actually it goes in to February

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01:57:35,630 --> 01:57:33,750
because that's when they start to fill

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01:57:37,670 --> 01:57:35,640
the desert people saying you know the

2224
01:57:40,550 --> 01:57:37,680
Robinson town means as a conclusion and

2225
01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:40,560
thinks we should bunk all this and we

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01:57:43,140 --> 01:57:41,850
don't feel that we need to bother the

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01:57:44,580 --> 01:57:43,150
NSA now

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01:57:47,100 --> 01:57:44,590
how do you feel about it and of course

2229
01:57:50,669 --> 01:57:47,110
they cut down played it and it died the

2230
01:57:53,340 --> 01:57:50,679
quick death but we have here you know

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01:57:56,280 --> 01:57:53,350
the subject you know the problem one two

2232
01:57:59,010 --> 01:57:56,290
facts in discussion three conclusions

2233
01:58:00,530 --> 01:57:59,020
flying saucers opposed to elements of

2234
01:58:03,419 --> 01:58:00,540
danger which have national security

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01:58:05,729 --> 01:58:03,429
implications the first involves mass

2236
01:58:07,979 --> 01:58:05,739
psychological considerations and the

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01:58:11,130 --> 01:58:07,989
second concerns are the vulnerability of

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01:58:13,410 --> 01:58:11,140
the United States to air attack right

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right there in this document let's take

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a break right here Clifford will

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01:58:19,919 --> 01:58:16,780
continue with this and get to all of

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01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:19,929
them in these next two segments of the

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show

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this is fade to black our guest tonight

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01:58:27,570 --> 01:58:24,340
is Clifford stone we're discussing how

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01:58:31,350 --> 01:58:27,580
close we were to disclosure you think

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it's heavy today back in 1952 it was

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01:58:35,820 --> 01:58:33,730
seriously going down we're discussing

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all of this and we'll be right back stay

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to our bloodstream this tea helps

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[Applause]

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you wanna know a secret

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I love police I really love ponies I'm

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serious I couldn't stay sane without

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poor mr. Brooks why fade to black

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this is fade to black

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with Jimmy Church on the game changer

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welcome back pay two black an amazing

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02:03:42,550 --> 02:03:40,520
show tonight with Clifford stone these

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02:03:44,950 --> 02:03:42,560
documents are absolutely incredible you

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02:03:46,630 --> 02:03:44,960
can view all of them over at Jimmy

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Church radio.com you can go to the

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02:03:52,060 --> 02:03:49,670
Clifford stone page and everything is

2363
02:03:54,040 --> 02:03:52,070
there in order now Clifford looking at

2364
02:03:55,840 --> 02:03:54,050
this next document the October 11th

2365
02:03:58,149 --> 02:03:55,850
document we've got a lot more to cover

2366
02:04:00,610 --> 02:03:58,159
here so we're gonna try to get through

2367
02:04:04,209 --> 02:04:00,620
as much of this as we can but on this

2368
02:04:06,399 --> 02:04:04,219
document pages 6 7 8 & 9 are

2369
02:04:10,419 --> 02:04:06,409
extraordinary and there's little clips

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02:04:14,020 --> 02:04:10,429
in each one that that stand out and one

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02:04:16,660 --> 02:04:14,030
is in paragraph 3 on page 6 they state

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02:04:19,780 --> 02:04:16,670
since 1947 ATI si has received

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02:04:22,330 --> 02:04:19,790
approximately 1500 official reports of

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02:04:24,250 --> 02:04:22,340
sightings plus an enormous volume of

2375
02:04:28,600 --> 02:04:24,260
letters phone calls and press reports

2376
02:04:32,320 --> 02:04:28,610
during July 1952 alone official reports

2377
02:04:35,950 --> 02:04:32,330
totaled 250 of the 1500 reports Air

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02:04:38,770 --> 02:04:35,960
Force carries a 20% as unexplained and

2379
02:04:41,169 --> 02:04:38,780
of those received from January through

2380
02:04:44,800 --> 02:04:41,179
not July 1952

2381
02:04:47,380 --> 02:04:44,810
it carries a 28 percent unexplained

2382
02:04:48,310 --> 02:04:47,390
that's an extraordinary statement in

2383
02:04:50,560 --> 02:04:48,320
this document

2384
02:04:54,010 --> 02:04:50,570
oh absolutely as a matter of fact that

2385
02:04:58,060 --> 02:04:54,020
led to some social order is being given

2386
02:04:59,890 --> 02:04:58,070
concerning that 1952 was the largest

2387
02:05:03,070 --> 02:04:59,900
number of sightings of unidentified

2388
02:05:06,820 --> 02:05:03,080
flying object imported officially to the

2389
02:05:08,380 --> 02:05:06,830
US Air Force and it was 1,500 actually

2390
02:05:11,620 --> 02:05:08,390
there was more than that but you know

2391
02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:11,630
what being officially reported it still

2392
02:05:19,300 --> 02:05:16,010
stood out 20% the Air Defense Command

2393
02:05:21,250 --> 02:05:19,310
and even general Ramey because general

2394
02:05:25,229 --> 02:05:21,260
Ramey was when I gave the order right

2395
02:05:28,560 --> 02:05:25,239
that 20% is too high of a percentage

2396
02:05:33,130 --> 02:05:28,570
they needed to get that percentage under

2397
02:05:37,209 --> 02:05:33,140
10% so the whole situation is they were

2398
02:05:41,140 --> 02:05:37,219
ordered they didn't care what the actual

2399
02:05:43,570 --> 02:05:41,150
conclusion was or whatever but from here

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02:05:55,360 --> 02:05:46,780
it would be under and this started in 53

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02:05:58,600 --> 02:05:55,370
by the way but it would be under 20% as

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02:06:02,620 --> 02:05:58,610
a matter of fact it would behoove them

2403
02:06:06,000 --> 02:06:02,630
to make it under 10% from that year on

2404
02:06:14,050 --> 02:06:06,010
essentially every percentage of unknowns

2405
02:06:16,930 --> 02:06:14,060
was on the average 7.7% unknowns with

2406
02:06:19,120 --> 02:06:16,940
that being said you would have UFOs that

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02:06:22,890 --> 02:06:19,130
would be identified as possible aircraft

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02:06:26,980 --> 02:06:22,900
possible meteors possible while weather

2409
02:06:29,620 --> 02:06:26,990
anomalies and what would happen that go

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02:06:32,410 --> 02:06:29,630
ahead and toast that when it died no

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02:06:36,280 --> 02:06:32,420
longer newsworthy to the national media

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02:06:40,900 --> 02:06:36,290
they would change that possible to an

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02:06:43,570 --> 02:06:40,910
aircraft that possible meteor the meteor

2414
02:06:47,200 --> 02:06:43,580
it didn't have to be true after all

2415
02:06:49,690 --> 02:06:47,210
Blue Book was to serve as a public

2416
02:06:51,720 --> 02:06:49,700
relations organization best way to show

2417
02:06:53,710 --> 02:06:51,730
this is that the National Reconnaissance

2418
02:06:56,400 --> 02:06:53,720
Organization had already addressed that

2419
02:06:59,260 --> 02:06:56,410
some people were reporting our

2420
02:07:01,590 --> 02:06:59,270
high-flying reconnaissance aircraft like

2421
02:07:04,420 --> 02:07:01,600
u2 and hearse everyone

2422
02:07:06,250 --> 02:07:04,430
870 all these good things they were

2423
02:07:08,590 --> 02:07:06,260
reporting these and they would appear

2424
02:07:13,090 --> 02:07:08,600
unusual people was used to seeing them

2425
02:07:14,680 --> 02:07:13,100
as you are rose and of course Blue Book

2426
02:07:17,530 --> 02:07:14,690
do this but they had to go ahead and

2427
02:07:19,930 --> 02:07:17,540
today well it was possibly an aircraft

2428
02:07:22,240 --> 02:07:19,940
me or whatever it does keep it quiet

2429
02:07:25,660 --> 02:07:22,250
because the NRO at that time so the

2430
02:07:27,970 --> 02:07:25,670
whole secret that very few people even

2431
02:07:30,580 --> 02:07:27,980
within the US government knew of the

2432
02:07:35,350 --> 02:07:30,590
existence of that organization Congress

2433
02:07:39,640 --> 02:07:35,360
didn't know about it until 1992 for the

2434
02:07:43,780 --> 02:07:39,650
first time 1992 the NRA the existence of

2435
02:07:45,220 --> 02:07:43,790
it became Joan but part of that no so

2436
02:07:47,410 --> 02:07:45,230
the whole situation is they try to

2437
02:07:50,020 --> 02:07:47,420
downplay it that way in the CIA did a

2438
02:07:53,800 --> 02:07:50,030
document dealing with UFOs trying to

2439
02:07:54,280 --> 02:07:53,810
explain it the same way none of that was

2440
02:07:57,310 --> 02:07:54,290
true

2441
02:07:59,410 --> 02:07:57,320
simply because the cases that

2442
02:08:01,270 --> 02:07:59,420
was really investigated by Air Force

2443
02:08:02,440 --> 02:08:01,280
intelligence too with beginning all for

2444
02:08:04,900 --> 02:08:02,450
supporting the Code section their

2445
02:08:06,820 --> 02:08:04,910
intelligence service squadron and the

2446
02:08:08,800 --> 02:08:06,830
same beast by a different name all the

2447
02:08:10,840 --> 02:08:08,810
way through till the closure of Blue

2448
02:08:13,840 --> 02:08:10,850
Book and after that it still continued

2449
02:08:16,450 --> 02:08:13,850
all the information critical information

2450
02:08:20,130 --> 02:08:16,460
was reported back to the the CIA's

2451
02:08:25,330 --> 02:08:20,140
office of Office of Scientific

2452
02:08:28,990 --> 02:08:25,340
intelligence to this day that office has

2453
02:08:31,510 --> 02:08:29,000
the truth of what we need to know that

2454
02:08:34,300 --> 02:08:31,520
office maintains files also on moondust

2455
02:08:36,220 --> 02:08:34,310
and Blue flight there's a big debate

2456
02:08:38,500 --> 02:08:36,230
over that because NASA thought they

2457
02:08:42,270 --> 02:08:38,510
should be more involved and the officers

2458
02:08:46,600 --> 02:08:42,280
are special and the office of scientific

2459
02:08:49,150 --> 02:08:46,610
intelligence told NASA essentially back

2460
02:08:54,070 --> 02:08:49,160
off you do what we tell you you don't

2461
02:08:56,770 --> 02:08:54,080
have to do also the the report states

2462
02:08:59,350 --> 02:08:56,780
here that and I can read this actually

2463
02:09:01,390 --> 02:08:59,360
directly it's a it's a pretty pretty

2464
02:09:04,570 --> 02:09:01,400
amazing thing for them to say it says

2465
02:09:08,170 --> 02:09:04,580
says that the United States press and

2466
02:09:10,990 --> 02:09:08,180
the population with the Air Force

2467
02:09:14,380 --> 02:09:11,000
indicates that a fair proportion of our

2468
02:09:17,620 --> 02:09:14,390
population is mentally conditioned to

2469
02:09:20,200 --> 02:09:17,630
the acceptance of the incredible in this

2470
02:09:23,920 --> 02:09:20,210
fact lies the potential for the touching

2471
02:09:26,350 --> 02:09:23,930
off of mass hysteria and panic so they

2472
02:09:28,840 --> 02:09:26,360
were obviously trying to deal with you

2473
02:09:30,340 --> 02:09:28,850
know they wanted to you know bring this

2474
02:09:32,050 --> 02:09:30,350
out to the public they felt that the

2475
02:09:34,870 --> 02:09:32,060
public could handle it but they were

2476
02:09:38,170 --> 02:09:34,880
also afraid of mass hysteria if they

2477
02:09:40,570 --> 02:09:38,180
were reveal the truth and they continue

2478
02:09:43,620 --> 02:09:40,580
on to say from an operational point of

2479
02:09:45,670 --> 02:09:43,630
view three actions are required a

2480
02:09:47,890 --> 02:09:45,680
immediate steps should be taken to

2481
02:09:50,530 --> 02:09:47,900
improve identification of both visual

2482
02:09:53,230 --> 02:09:50,540
and electronic phantom so that in the

2483
02:09:56,410 --> 02:09:53,240
event of an attack an incident positive

2484
02:09:58,750 --> 02:09:56,420
identification can be made be a study

2485
02:10:02,620 --> 02:09:58,760
should be instituted to determine what

2486
02:10:05,860 --> 02:10:02,630
if any Ulta utilization could be made of

2487
02:10:08,670 --> 02:10:05,870
these phenomena right by the United

2488
02:10:11,010 --> 02:10:08,680
States psychological warfare planners

2489
02:10:13,620 --> 02:10:11,020
and what if any defenses could be

2490
02:10:18,030 --> 02:10:13,630
planned in anticipation of Soviet

2491
02:10:21,120 --> 02:10:18,040
attempts to utilize them see in order to

2492
02:10:23,310 --> 02:10:21,130
minimize risk of panic a national policy

2493
02:10:26,720 --> 02:10:23,320
should be established as to what should

2494
02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:26,730
be told to the public regarding the

2495
02:10:32,430 --> 02:10:30,010
phenomenon internationally about the

2496
02:10:36,030 --> 02:10:32,440
psychological warfare situation yes that

2497
02:10:39,960 --> 02:10:36,040
was addressed in January or 1952 by the

2498
02:10:41,790 --> 02:10:39,970
psychological intelligence group there

2499
02:10:45,630 --> 02:10:41,800
and you actually had the document there

2500
02:10:48,960 --> 02:10:45,640
yes I have it and they were also well

2501
02:10:52,800 --> 02:10:48,970
we'll get to that next they were

2502
02:10:57,360 --> 02:10:52,810
desperately scrambling to find out what

2503
02:11:00,360 --> 02:10:57,370
the Soviets knew about UFOs and ETS they

2504
02:11:02,250 --> 02:11:00,370
they you know the Soviet Union was so

2505
02:11:04,140 --> 02:11:02,260
closed down back then it was difficult

2506
02:11:07,800 --> 02:11:04,150
for us to get that information and they

2507
02:11:10,860 --> 02:11:07,810
make that point here and also how the

2508
02:11:13,650 --> 02:11:10,870
Soviets could take advantage of the

2509
02:11:15,780 --> 02:11:13,660
technology I'm quoting here to utilize

2510
02:11:18,870 --> 02:11:15,790
the phenomena to the detriment of the

2511
02:11:20,490 --> 02:11:18,880
United States security interest but

2512
02:11:22,020 --> 02:11:20,500
everyone knows you of those don't exist

2513
02:11:25,230 --> 02:11:22,030
so how can it be a technology that's

2514
02:11:26,160 --> 02:11:25,240
right and it's right here clearly stated

2515
02:11:28,440 --> 02:11:26,170
in the document

2516
02:11:30,990 --> 02:11:28,450
let's go anywhere building documents are

2517
02:11:34,370 --> 02:11:31,000
important for everyone to think yes it's

2518
02:11:37,140 --> 02:11:34,380
it's incredible reading incredible let's

2519
02:11:40,410 --> 02:11:37,150
let's get to as much of these as we can

2520
02:11:47,550 --> 02:11:40,420
before the next break the next one is a

2521
02:11:55,430 --> 02:11:47,560
CIA document and this is dated document

2522
02:12:00,330 --> 02:11:55,440
19 first of January 19 January 1 1950 to

2523
02:12:09,960 --> 02:12:00,340
something saucers yes that right there

2524
02:12:13,890 --> 02:12:09,970
is by the the psychological board within

2525
02:12:19,160 --> 02:12:13,900
the CIA and what they were trying to do

2526
02:12:22,850 --> 02:12:19,170
was show that there was concerns on how

2527
02:12:26,580 --> 02:12:22,860
the UFO phenomena could

2528
02:12:30,380 --> 02:12:26,590
exploited and the the first page

2529
02:12:33,840 --> 02:12:30,390
paragraph one I think says it best that

2530
02:12:35,340 --> 02:12:33,850
it was concluded that problems connected

2531
02:12:37,800 --> 02:12:35,350
with unidentified flying objects

2532
02:12:40,070 --> 02:12:37,810
appeared to have implications for

2533
02:12:43,680 --> 02:12:40,080
psychological warfare as well as for

2534
02:12:45,420 --> 02:12:43,690
intelligence and operations and that's

2535
02:12:48,300 --> 02:12:45,430
what all this report right here was to

2536
02:12:55,350 --> 02:12:48,310
do bring into play a played a critical

2537
02:12:59,990 --> 02:12:55,360
part after the August 26 27 nine UFO

2538
02:13:02,400 --> 02:13:00,000
sightings over Washington DC because the

2539
02:13:04,620 --> 02:13:02,410
government was trying to build that up

2540
02:13:07,230 --> 02:13:04,630
order I say the CIA was trying to build

2541
02:13:10,200 --> 02:13:07,240
that up while keeping the critical

2542
02:13:12,660 --> 02:13:10,210
factors that some UFOs may be someone

2543
02:13:15,050 --> 02:13:12,670
else's spacecraft visiting us from

2544
02:13:17,940 --> 02:13:15,060
somewheres else from Mountain the cosmos

2545
02:13:21,240 --> 02:13:17,950
so that it played a major role in trying

2546
02:13:23,160 --> 02:13:21,250
to downplay the entire intelligence

2547
02:13:27,930 --> 02:13:23,170
community getting involved but like I

2548
02:13:29,880 --> 02:13:27,940
say IAC was really pushing to get the

2549
02:13:34,230 --> 02:13:29,890
entire intelligence community involved

2550
02:13:36,870 --> 02:13:34,240
and had that happen had the National

2551
02:13:39,300 --> 02:13:36,880
Security Agency National Security

2552
02:13:45,150 --> 02:13:39,310
Council issued the intelligence

2553
02:13:48,150 --> 02:13:45,160
directive dealing with UFOs in 1953

2554
02:13:53,400 --> 02:13:48,160
February of 1952 r53 is when it wouldn't

2555
02:13:55,920 --> 02:13:53,410
happen then by mid 50 three the truth

2556
02:13:59,340 --> 02:13:55,930
would have been out about UFOs being of

2557
02:14:03,630 --> 02:13:59,350
extra critical origin he checked this

2558
02:14:06,450 --> 02:14:03,640
out I suggest that we discuss an early

2559
02:14:10,260 --> 02:14:06,460
board meeting the possible offensive or

2560
02:14:12,900 --> 02:14:10,270
defensive utilization of these phenomena

2561
02:14:17,340 --> 02:14:12,910
for psychological warfare purposes

2562
02:14:23,220 --> 02:14:17,350
signed Walter B Smith director of the

2563
02:14:26,400 --> 02:14:23,230
CIA that is nuts

2564
02:14:28,020 --> 02:14:26,410
what a crazy document okay let's let's

2565
02:14:33,690 --> 02:14:28,030
get the next one in here before the

2566
02:14:36,240 --> 02:14:33,700
break which is December this is document

2567
02:14:41,020 --> 02:14:36,250
14 December 11

2568
02:14:45,370 --> 02:14:41,030
19:52 again stamped a top-secret

2569
02:14:53,950 --> 02:14:45,380
interest in flying saucers thursday 11th

2570
02:14:58,810 --> 02:14:53,960
December 1952 o.k that Stockton

2571
02:15:00,790 --> 02:14:58,820
recording yes uh yeah that's showing

2572
02:15:06,120 --> 02:15:00,800
where J Edgar Hoover was very concerned

2573
02:15:10,930 --> 02:15:06,130
about the CIA not being fully truthful

2574
02:15:13,810 --> 02:15:10,940
with in the intelligence advisory

2575
02:15:16,840 --> 02:15:13,820
committees meetings dealing with UFOs so

2576
02:15:21,090 --> 02:15:16,850
he wanted more information from the CIA

2577
02:15:24,690 --> 02:15:21,100
the director of the CIA took offense to

2578
02:15:28,300 --> 02:15:24,700
the suggestion that who were made and

2579
02:15:30,100 --> 02:15:28,310
pungently referred to he really wants to

2580
02:15:36,520 --> 02:15:30,110
know the truth why doesn't he himself

2581
02:15:39,670 --> 02:15:36,530
attend the IAC meeting wow this is uh

2582
02:15:42,520 --> 02:15:39,680
this is nuts all the way up to Christmas

2583
02:15:45,010 --> 02:15:42,530
Eve by the way

2584
02:15:48,250 --> 02:15:45,020
Christmas Eve checked with blank on the

2585
02:15:50,590 --> 02:15:48,260
status of the briefing on flying saucers

2586
02:15:53,470 --> 02:15:50,600
has been in touch with blank and no

2587
02:15:57,640 --> 02:15:53,480
further follow-up is necessary from here

2588
02:15:59,590 --> 02:15:57,650
yeah he was pretty upset well it was

2589
02:16:01,900 --> 02:15:59,600
that mr. Hoover is very interested in

2590
02:16:03,790 --> 02:16:01,910
the subject of flying saucers has been

2591
02:16:06,070 --> 02:16:03,800
reported to him that the matter was

2592
02:16:08,710 --> 02:16:06,080
discussed at the IAC meeting of the 4th

2593
02:16:12,310 --> 02:16:08,720
of December mr. Hoover had asked him

2594
02:16:20,950 --> 02:16:12,320
saying obtain as much information as we

2595
02:16:26,100 --> 02:16:20,960
are willing to give him that is

2596
02:16:29,530 --> 02:16:26,110
incredible and the next one is December

2597
02:16:34,240 --> 02:16:29,540
14th am I reading this right

2598
02:16:38,350 --> 02:16:34,250
no December 20th document 21 am I doing

2599
02:16:40,510 --> 02:16:38,360
this in order please tell me I am it's

2600
02:16:44,020 --> 02:16:40,520
close enough that it could be October

2601
02:16:45,830 --> 02:16:44,030
27th yes okay - I need a memo I got the

2602
02:16:48,500 --> 02:16:45,840
eye memorandum I've got it off

2603
02:16:51,500 --> 02:16:48,510
memorandum United States government here

2604
02:16:56,089 --> 02:16:51,510
we go subject flying saucers October 27

2605
02:16:59,270 --> 02:16:56,099
1952 go ahead okay this one right here

2606
02:17:02,810 --> 02:16:59,280
shows that the agents that attended the

2607
02:17:06,589 --> 02:17:02,820
I that attended to the and intelligence

2608
02:17:10,040 --> 02:17:06,599
advisory committees meetings was

2609
02:17:13,330 --> 02:17:10,050
informed in the synopsis air

2610
02:17:17,570 --> 02:17:13,340
intelligence advised of another

2611
02:17:20,540 --> 02:17:17,580
incredible and unexplainable sighting of

2612
02:17:23,360 --> 02:17:20,550
flying saucers air intelligence still

2613
02:17:29,929 --> 02:17:23,370
skills flying saucers are optical

2614
02:17:33,770 --> 02:17:29,939
illusions our atmospheric phenomena yar

2615
02:17:39,400 --> 02:17:33,780
atmospheric phenomena but some military

2616
02:17:41,440 --> 02:17:39,410
officials are seriously continuously

2617
02:17:44,629 --> 02:17:41,450
considering the possibility of

2618
02:17:46,940 --> 02:17:44,639
interplanetary spacecraft and of course

2619
02:17:52,700 --> 02:17:46,950
that was the key factor with the AIC

2620
02:17:55,099 --> 02:17:52,710
doing what they were doing so with him

2621
02:18:00,650 --> 02:17:55,109
being told that he felt that somebody

2622
02:18:02,270 --> 02:18:00,660
was in the IAC had the answers and it

2623
02:18:05,030 --> 02:18:02,280
goes all the way back to the director of

2624
02:18:07,490 --> 02:18:05,040
Central Intelligence because this is the

2625
02:18:10,520 --> 02:18:07,500
one that's trying to downplay the UFOs

2626
02:18:13,459 --> 02:18:10,530
as having anything of any real

2627
02:18:16,040 --> 02:18:13,469
significant of you know being a matter

2628
02:18:18,049 --> 02:18:16,050
of national advance sure they might go

2629
02:18:20,629 --> 02:18:18,059
ahead and interfere with an enemy attack

2630
02:18:22,849 --> 02:18:20,639
on the US so yeah we might want to be a

2631
02:18:26,660 --> 02:18:22,859
little concerned about that check this

2632
02:18:28,400 --> 02:18:26,670
room more concerned because we went

2633
02:18:31,820 --> 02:18:28,410
ahead and got an agreement with the

2634
02:18:33,740 --> 02:18:31,830
former Soviet states in the u.s. that is

2635
02:18:36,129 --> 02:18:33,750
a large number of UFOs were being picked

2636
02:18:40,280 --> 02:18:36,139
up coming in over the Arctic Circle

2637
02:18:42,919 --> 02:18:40,290
before we launched an attack on this

2638
02:18:45,020 --> 02:18:42,929
former Soviet states we would contact

2639
02:18:48,049 --> 02:18:45,030
them see if they were responsible for

2640
02:18:51,980 --> 02:18:48,059
those objects because many objects on

2641
02:18:55,250 --> 02:18:51,990
many instances there were alerts that

2642
02:18:58,190 --> 02:18:55,260
put our bombers and our fighters on

2643
02:18:59,450 --> 02:18:58,200
alert and become airborne heading

2644
02:19:01,549 --> 02:18:59,460
towards their targets

2645
02:19:03,799 --> 02:19:01,559
because of the large number of UFOs

2646
02:19:05,509 --> 02:19:03,809
being picked up coming from over the

2647
02:19:09,740 --> 02:19:05,519
Arctic Circle which would be the exact

2648
02:19:11,360 --> 02:19:09,750
path that incoming ICBMs and enemy

2649
02:19:14,959 --> 02:19:11,370
bombers would be following to attack to

2650
02:19:18,500 --> 02:19:14,969
us in this document I remember now when

2651
02:19:21,440 --> 02:19:18,510
I went through these this statement here

2652
02:19:25,910 --> 02:19:21,450
in the second paragraph on on on page 2

2653
02:19:27,770 --> 02:19:25,920
or page 1 is this statement the air

2654
02:19:30,950 --> 02:19:27,780
technical Intelligence Center have

2655
02:19:34,549 --> 02:19:30,960
advised that after careful study there

2656
02:19:37,759 --> 02:19:34,559
were as many as 12 to 16 flying objects

2657
02:19:40,790 --> 02:19:37,769
recorded on this film that the

2658
02:19:44,150 --> 02:19:40,800
possibility of weather balloons clouds

2659
02:19:49,130 --> 02:19:44,160
or other explainable objects has been

2660
02:19:51,610 --> 02:19:49,140
completely ruled out absolutely it's

2661
02:19:54,020 --> 02:19:51,620
right there the air technical

2662
02:19:56,840 --> 02:19:54,030
Intelligence Center experts pointed out

2663
02:20:00,590 --> 02:19:56,850
that they do not that they could not be

2664
02:20:05,030 --> 02:20:00,600
optical illusions as optical illusions

2665
02:20:07,700 --> 02:20:05,040
could not be recorded on film end of

2666
02:20:09,350 --> 02:20:07,710
statement right there in this document

2667
02:20:12,890 --> 02:20:09,360
this is one of the most impressive

2668
02:20:14,480 --> 02:20:12,900
documents I've ever seen right here that

2669
02:20:18,830 --> 02:20:14,490
is incredible all of these are

2670
02:20:20,870 --> 02:20:18,840
incredible but that's that's just almost

2671
02:20:25,430 --> 02:20:20,880
too much to absorb now we've got another

2672
02:20:30,200 --> 02:20:25,440
document which is also oh wait a minute

2673
02:20:36,340 --> 02:20:30,210
no I'm sorry I apologize I opened up the

2674
02:20:42,440 --> 02:20:36,350
same one document this is document 28th

2675
02:20:45,770 --> 02:20:42,450
January 18 1953 secret security

2676
02:20:47,900 --> 02:20:45,780
information is the title reported

2677
02:20:50,810 --> 02:20:47,910
meetings of scientific advisory panel on

2678
02:20:52,870 --> 02:20:50,820
unidentified flying objects convened by

2679
02:20:54,520 --> 02:20:52,880
the Office of Scientific intelligence

2680
02:20:59,510 --> 02:20:54,530
CIA

2681
02:21:03,380 --> 02:20:59,520
January 14th through the 18th 1953 F C

2682
02:21:06,380 --> 02:21:03,390
Durant this right here is what they call

2683
02:21:08,360 --> 02:21:06,390
the Robinson panel report and it's a

2684
02:21:11,330 --> 02:21:08,370
synopsis on what happened from day to

2685
02:21:13,131 --> 02:21:11,340
day you have major Fernet going there

2686
02:21:15,560 --> 02:21:13,141
telling them hey look this

2687
02:21:18,381 --> 02:21:15,570
these cases here are some of the best

2688
02:21:22,131 --> 02:21:18,391
cases we have we went over them very

2689
02:21:24,470 --> 02:21:22,141
carefully and we eliminated the

2690
02:21:27,531 --> 02:21:24,480
possibilities of them being weather

2691
02:21:29,711 --> 02:21:27,541
balloons temperature inversions and all

2692
02:21:33,321 --> 02:21:29,721
of that and leaving us with only one

2693
02:21:37,220 --> 02:21:33,331
possible conclusion these cases

2694
02:21:41,180 --> 02:21:37,230
represent objects of unknown origin

2695
02:21:44,031 --> 02:21:41,190
originating from another solar system

2696
02:21:45,741 --> 02:21:44,041
our outer space that the only conclusion

2697
02:21:49,190 --> 02:21:45,751
we can reach is that these are

2698
02:21:51,770 --> 02:21:49,200
extraterrestrial spaceships well of

2699
02:21:54,321 --> 02:21:51,780
course you know before the Robinson pal

2700
02:21:57,321 --> 02:21:54,331
met the director of the CIA met with

2701
02:21:58,611 --> 02:21:57,331
them and gave them their instructions on

2702
02:22:01,940 --> 02:21:58,621
how they were to deal with this once

2703
02:22:05,291 --> 02:22:01,950
again they inform them to not conclude

2704
02:22:09,680 --> 02:22:05,301
they are interplanetary without first

2705
02:22:11,781 --> 02:22:09,690
having hard physical evidence so

2706
02:22:13,551 --> 02:22:11,791
therefore they rejected micronet being

2707
02:22:15,381 --> 02:22:13,561
out of hand now the National

2708
02:22:17,841 --> 02:22:15,391
Reconnaissance Organization only they

2709
02:22:26,541 --> 02:22:17,851
came in as like they were with the

2710
02:22:28,461 --> 02:22:26,551
Office of Naval Intelligence stating

2711
02:22:34,270 --> 02:22:28,471
that they had done hundreds of hours on

2712
02:22:36,470 --> 02:22:34,280
the two films that they had there and

2713
02:22:38,900 --> 02:22:36,480
stated that the only conclusion they

2714
02:22:41,361 --> 02:22:38,910
could have was that these were solid or

2715
02:22:45,111 --> 02:22:41,371
these were solid objects and they were

2716
02:22:48,140 --> 02:22:45,121
possibly interplanetary spacecraft they

2717
02:22:50,541 --> 02:22:48,150
rejected that the panel was fencing

2718
02:22:54,140 --> 02:22:50,551
around nursing calmly going out playing

2719
02:22:55,881 --> 02:22:54,150
on the golf course concluded oh well you

2720
02:23:02,361 --> 02:22:55,891
know these are probably because weather

2721
02:23:05,001 --> 02:23:02,371
balloons are there are G's particularly

2722
02:23:08,781 --> 02:23:05,011
in the one film that was out west that

2723
02:23:11,511 --> 02:23:08,791
they were just geese and they you know

2724
02:23:13,100 --> 02:23:11,521
the experts were totally wrong but these

2725
02:23:15,321 --> 02:23:13,110
were supposed to be the scientific

2726
02:23:17,810 --> 02:23:15,331
experts now I want to point out one

2727
02:23:21,350 --> 02:23:17,820
thing about the scientific experts on

2728
02:23:25,761 --> 02:23:21,360
the Robinson panel more than two-thirds

2729
02:23:26,570 --> 02:23:25,771
of them worked in trying to identify the

2730
02:23:28,551 --> 02:23:26,580
ghost rock

2731
02:23:31,490 --> 02:23:28,561
and 47 which the US government want to

2732
02:23:34,430 --> 02:23:31,500
keep very quiet about and the whole

2733
02:23:37,790 --> 02:23:34,440
situation given their best efforts they

2734
02:23:40,610 --> 02:23:37,800
could not find any crash debris of those

2735
02:23:41,660 --> 02:23:40,620
objects in 46 going over Sweden and

2736
02:23:44,390 --> 02:23:41,670
Denmark mmm

2737
02:23:46,130 --> 02:23:44,400
yet in the Robinson tunnel report they

2738
02:23:50,450 --> 02:23:46,140
make it clear well these things were

2739
02:23:52,430 --> 02:23:50,460
real then we would find crash Tabriz and

2740
02:23:54,920 --> 02:23:52,440
all that which we already had done but

2741
02:23:57,650 --> 02:23:54,930
the Robinson Talon was a secret report

2742
02:23:59,780 --> 02:23:57,660
secret group therefore they could not

2743
02:24:02,930 --> 02:23:59,790
have exposure to anything above secret

2744
02:24:05,450 --> 02:24:02,940
so they were stuck that's all they could

2745
02:24:09,320 --> 02:24:05,460
talk about well here it was with the

2746
02:24:12,560 --> 02:24:09,330
Gauls those Rockets they negated the

2747
02:24:15,410 --> 02:24:12,570
fact that more than two-thirds of them

2748
02:24:16,910 --> 02:24:15,420
worked on the investigation of those but

2749
02:24:19,490 --> 02:24:16,920
they didn't find you know I need to be

2750
02:24:23,750 --> 02:24:19,500
neither but they go back to the Second

2751
02:24:26,810 --> 02:24:23,760
World War people reporting these objects

2752
02:24:29,720 --> 02:24:26,820
is rockets and of course you know they

2753
02:24:31,580 --> 02:24:29,730
looked into it and it was confirmed very

2754
02:24:33,650 --> 02:24:31,590
shortly thereafter at getting some

2755
02:24:37,190 --> 02:24:33,660
reports about them that they did exist

2756
02:24:38,960 --> 02:24:37,200
because they found debris well no one

2757
02:24:42,560 --> 02:24:38,970
brought up about the ghost rockets there

2758
02:24:45,640 --> 02:24:42,570
in Sweden and Denmark then you take in

2759
02:24:48,410 --> 02:24:45,650
the other consideration once again

2760
02:24:50,600 --> 02:24:48,420
two-thirds or more worked on what was

2761
02:24:56,390 --> 02:24:50,610
called project twinkle the green

2762
02:25:01,100 --> 02:24:56,400
fireball phenomenon here in New Mexico

2763
02:25:03,470 --> 02:25:01,110
Texas Arizona but primarily New Mexico

2764
02:25:06,200 --> 02:25:03,480
well here again these people that worked

2765
02:25:08,840 --> 02:25:06,210
on it the finances who were there with

2766
02:25:11,030 --> 02:25:08,850
the Robinson panels and two thirds or so

2767
02:25:15,020 --> 02:25:11,040
that worked with this project felt that

2768
02:25:18,560 --> 02:25:15,030
the green fireball phenomenon was a very

2769
02:25:20,240 --> 02:25:18,570
serious concern and a potential threat

2770
02:25:22,820 --> 02:25:20,250
to the national security of the United

2771
02:25:26,090 --> 02:25:22,830
States but that's not brought out in the

2772
02:25:28,940 --> 02:25:26,100
Robinson panel what happens is the

2773
02:25:33,470 --> 02:25:28,950
Robinson panel concludes there's nothing

2774
02:25:36,710 --> 02:25:33,480
to UFOs and that the best we could do

2775
02:25:40,340 --> 02:25:36,720
and what we should do is go ahead and

2776
02:25:44,599 --> 02:25:40,350
discourage people from reporting

2777
02:25:46,370 --> 02:25:44,609
UFOs period thus began operation

2778
02:25:49,160 --> 02:25:46,380
ridicule which essentially if people

2779
02:25:52,040 --> 02:25:49,170
reported UFOs they should be ridiculed

2780
02:25:57,649 --> 02:25:52,050
and made to look silly so others

2781
02:26:00,260 --> 02:25:57,659
wouldn't report it this led to in status

2782
02:26:03,649 --> 02:26:00,270
report - I think it is Project Blue Book

2783
02:26:05,719 --> 02:26:03,659
status report - - one lot more up with a

2784
02:26:08,269 --> 02:26:05,729
group of pilots being briefed about UFOs

2785
02:26:11,120 --> 02:26:08,279
one of the pilots when I had stated that

2786
02:26:14,450 --> 02:26:11,130
he could be flying wing tip to wing tip

2787
02:26:17,660 --> 02:26:14,460
with a spaceship and would not report it

2788
02:26:20,510 --> 02:26:17,670
this created major concern to the Air

2789
02:26:23,240 --> 02:26:20,520
Defense Command because they may be

2790
02:26:25,910 --> 02:26:23,250
flying wing tip to wing tip with an

2791
02:26:29,210 --> 02:26:25,920
enemy aircraft that was coming here to

2792
02:26:32,300 --> 02:26:29,220
invade the United States and because it

2793
02:26:33,590 --> 02:26:32,310
had an unusual configuration they did

2794
02:26:37,880 --> 02:26:33,600
not want to be called foolish because

2795
02:26:40,969 --> 02:26:37,890
they reported a UFO and this Robinson

2796
02:26:44,090 --> 02:26:40,979
panel was important because this is what

2797
02:26:47,120 --> 02:26:44,100
stopped the National Security Council

2798
02:26:50,330 --> 02:26:47,130
from even being briefed officially on

2799
02:26:54,349 --> 02:26:50,340
UFOs that's right and one of the things

2800
02:26:57,969 --> 02:26:54,359
that they clearly tried to do here in

2801
02:27:01,130 --> 02:26:57,979
the Robertson report was that now we can

2802
02:27:05,389 --> 02:27:01,140
always use the instability of the

2803
02:27:09,740 --> 02:27:05,399
witnesses we can use the the brevity of

2804
02:27:14,750 --> 02:27:09,750
the sightings that the instability of

2805
02:27:17,120 --> 02:27:14,760
the witnesses they they used you know a

2806
02:27:21,349 --> 02:27:17,130
half a dozen or a dozen specific cases

2807
02:27:24,380 --> 02:27:21,359
like Belafonte no hiyo and Utah in in

2808
02:27:28,910 --> 02:27:24,390
July 2nd 1952 Great Falls Montana

2809
02:27:30,979 --> 02:27:28,920
of course Washington DC and Haneda Air

2810
02:27:34,309 --> 02:27:30,989
Force Base in Japan

2811
02:27:36,979 --> 02:27:34,319
Port Huron and Michigan these different

2812
02:27:39,349 --> 02:27:36,989
cases were each one of these cases and

2813
02:27:42,770 --> 02:27:39,359
they specifically said this that each

2814
02:27:46,671 --> 02:27:42,780
one of these cases could

2815
02:27:51,171 --> 02:27:46,681
have reasonable explanations that could

2816
02:27:55,430 --> 02:27:51,181
be used back to the press and therefore

2817
02:27:58,690 --> 02:27:55,440
we can always explain away each one of

2818
02:28:03,950 --> 02:27:58,700
these sightings and we don't have to

2819
02:28:06,740 --> 02:28:03,960
present our official determinations to

2820
02:28:10,511 --> 02:28:06,750
these and that it would be better that

2821
02:28:13,520 --> 02:28:10,521
we didn't present our conclusive

2822
02:28:16,761 --> 02:28:13,530
explanations every time and that's

2823
02:28:19,341 --> 02:28:16,771
that's that's a for the Robertson report

2824
02:28:21,190 --> 02:28:19,351
to actually say that this is how we

2825
02:28:23,860 --> 02:28:21,200
should handle this moving forward

2826
02:28:27,890 --> 02:28:23,870
instead of presenting the public with

2827
02:28:33,261 --> 02:28:27,900
the actual facts Rupa was there showing

2828
02:28:36,291 --> 02:28:33,271
film Rubel was there trying to and that

2829
02:28:38,541 --> 02:28:36,301
the panel didn't want to take that tack

2830
02:28:41,211 --> 02:28:38,551
they wanted to go the opposite with this

2831
02:28:42,831 --> 02:28:41,221
and throw softballs to the public and

2832
02:28:45,530 --> 02:28:42,841
that's that's what I get out of the

2833
02:28:47,841 --> 02:28:45,540
Robertson report oh oh yeah well no this

2834
02:28:54,341 --> 02:28:47,851
report actually the report you have

2835
02:28:58,341 --> 02:28:54,351
right now was a release in December 2017

2836
02:29:01,970 --> 02:28:58,351
prior to that they released similar they

2837
02:29:03,591 --> 02:29:01,980
released a report that was similar to

2838
02:29:06,411 --> 02:29:03,601
this one I don't know if this right here

2839
02:29:08,060 --> 02:29:06,421
had been released prior to that but that

2840
02:29:10,581 --> 02:29:08,070
all the information is the same it was

2841
02:29:13,970 --> 02:29:10,591
in it but it was very difficult to read

2842
02:29:18,020 --> 02:29:13,980
and the CIA said this is the best copy

2843
02:29:20,751 --> 02:29:18,030
we have so you know when this one came

2844
02:29:23,480 --> 02:29:20,761
out it wasn't part of they have two

2845
02:29:25,070 --> 02:29:23,490
files on UFOs CIA does well let's say

2846
02:29:26,600 --> 02:29:25,080
there's lipfird let me jump in right

2847
02:29:28,581 --> 02:29:26,610
there I got to take a break I got to

2848
02:29:30,801 --> 02:29:28,591
take a hard break right here with the

2849
02:29:33,350 --> 02:29:30,811
network so let's get this last break in

2850
02:29:34,850 --> 02:29:33,360
and then we'll come back and go through

2851
02:29:37,371 --> 02:29:34,860
the rest of the stuff that we have and

2852
02:29:39,501 --> 02:29:37,381
come to some conclusions with you so

2853
02:29:42,020 --> 02:29:39,511
stay right there I guess tonight is

2854
02:29:44,180 --> 02:29:42,030
Clifford stone we've got a lot of stuff

2855
02:29:46,911 --> 02:29:44,190
to go through tonight and we're gonna

2856
02:29:49,430 --> 02:29:46,921
get it all in this is fade to black all

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2948
02:34:49,609 --> 02:34:47,199
guest tonight is Clifford stone going

2949
02:34:52,710 --> 02:34:49,619
through a mountain of documents about

2950
02:34:56,309 --> 02:34:52,720
the potential disclosure that almost

2951
02:35:00,029 --> 02:34:56,319
happened back in 1952 and before we get

2952
02:35:04,170 --> 02:35:00,039
back to Clifford I've got some sad news

2953
02:35:05,340 --> 02:35:04,180
to report here dickey betts the founding

2954
02:35:10,290 --> 02:35:05,350
one of the founding members of the

2955
02:35:13,590 --> 02:35:10,300
Allman Brothers fell and hit his head

2956
02:35:15,090 --> 02:35:13,600
he's undergoing brain surgery right now

2957
02:35:19,080 --> 02:35:15,100
this happened at his home he was playing

2958
02:35:21,540 --> 02:35:19,090
with his dog in Sarasota Florida at his

2959
02:35:23,279 --> 02:35:21,550
home and our thoughts are with dickey

2960
02:35:25,769 --> 02:35:23,289
betts one of the great you know I don't

2961
02:35:28,649 --> 02:35:25,779
Clifford I don't know if you were or are

2962
02:35:31,199 --> 02:35:28,659
an Allman Brothers fan but but for me

2963
02:35:33,569 --> 02:35:31,209
the band was just so good right I mean

2964
02:35:37,949 --> 02:35:33,579
just just a stratospheric and it's

2965
02:35:38,849 --> 02:35:37,959
talented songwriting but I laser focused

2966
02:35:41,790 --> 02:35:38,859
on dickey betts

2967
02:35:43,590 --> 02:35:41,800
I thought to keep heads was or is one of

2968
02:35:45,719 --> 02:35:43,600
the most amazing guitar players ever

2969
02:35:47,099 --> 02:35:45,729
it's just really sad you know to be

2970
02:35:48,660 --> 02:35:47,109
playing with your dog and you fall and

2971
02:35:52,290 --> 02:35:48,670
you hit your head and the next thing you

2972
02:35:55,199 --> 02:35:52,300
know you're getting a brain surgery to

2973
02:35:56,719 --> 02:35:55,209
relieve swelling so our thoughts are

2974
02:36:01,769 --> 02:35:56,729
with dickey betts

2975
02:36:05,779 --> 02:36:01,779
now going let's get to this it may is

2976
02:36:10,609 --> 02:36:05,789
this our last documents the one dated

2977
02:36:14,760 --> 02:36:10,619
this is also stamped July 29th 1952 a

2978
02:36:19,070 --> 02:36:14,770
deputy director of intelligence subject

2979
02:36:22,500 --> 02:36:19,080
recent sightings of unexplained objects

2980
02:36:27,450 --> 02:36:22,510
yes sir and this is a five page document

2981
02:36:30,660 --> 02:36:27,460
please note July 29 1952 I'm claiming

2982
02:36:32,220 --> 02:36:30,670
time this press conference the same time

2983
02:36:34,440 --> 02:36:32,230
as the GIC

2984
02:36:36,511 --> 02:36:34,450
telling certain members in the

2985
02:36:40,350 --> 02:36:36,521
intelligence community I had no idea of

2986
02:36:43,881 --> 02:36:40,360
what was going on this was the start of

2987
02:36:46,920 --> 02:36:43,891
the major inquiries in done by the

2988
02:36:50,900 --> 02:36:46,930
intelligence advisory committee were

2989
02:36:53,850 --> 02:36:50,910
they were pushing heavily for a National

2990
02:36:56,700 --> 02:36:53,860
Security Council intelligence directive

2991
02:37:00,870 --> 02:36:56,710
to be issued it's live pay and this is a

2992
02:37:02,640 --> 02:37:00,880
way it comes from the CIA also so they

2993
02:37:05,250 --> 02:37:02,650
considered all these documents to

2994
02:37:12,000 --> 02:37:05,260
represent one document within itself

2995
02:37:13,950 --> 02:37:12,010
well if you go to the second page well

2996
02:37:17,430 --> 02:37:13,960
before we do that before we do that

2997
02:37:22,710 --> 02:37:17,440
Clifford the the the intro paragraph

2998
02:37:24,060 --> 02:37:22,720
here is extremely telling and I'm gonna

2999
02:37:27,000 --> 02:37:24,070
read this then we're gonna go to page

3000
02:37:28,980 --> 02:37:27,010
two it says in the past several weeks a

3001
02:37:30,870 --> 02:37:28,990
number of radar and visual sightings of

3002
02:37:32,881 --> 02:37:30,880
unidentified aerial objects have been

3003
02:37:35,430 --> 02:37:32,891
reported although this office has

3004
02:37:37,620 --> 02:37:35,440
maintained a continuing review of such

3005
02:37:42,360 --> 02:37:37,630
reported sightings during the past three

3006
02:37:47,790 --> 02:37:42,370
years a special study group has been

3007
02:37:50,640 --> 02:37:47,800
formed to review this subject that is an

3008
02:37:53,250 --> 02:37:50,650
extraordinary statement right there and

3009
02:37:58,650 --> 02:37:53,260
of course we can make many references

3010
02:38:01,620 --> 02:37:58,660
back to majestic or mj-12 but they

3011
02:38:05,280 --> 02:38:01,630
specifically state that a study group

3012
02:38:09,720 --> 02:38:05,290
has been formed to review the subject

3013
02:38:12,150 --> 02:38:09,730
okay let's go to page two on that same

3014
02:38:17,910 --> 02:38:12,160
subject on the first page please note

3015
02:38:19,430 --> 02:38:17,920
this the study was with the old /si

3016
02:38:23,640 --> 02:38:19,440
that's the office of scientific

3017
02:38:27,660 --> 02:38:23,650
intelligence now on page two to go down

3018
02:38:31,790 --> 02:38:27,670
to paragraph four were you some names

3019
02:38:34,450 --> 02:38:31,800
that the very last sentence

3020
02:38:36,620 --> 02:38:34,460
they're state deciding to unexplained

3021
02:38:39,260 --> 02:38:36,630
objects the great altitudes and

3022
02:38:43,040 --> 02:38:39,270
traveling at high speeds in the vicinity

3023
02:38:45,290 --> 02:38:43,050
of major US Defense installations are of

3024
02:38:48,260 --> 02:38:45,300
such nature that they are not

3025
02:38:52,760 --> 02:38:48,270
attributable to natural phenomena are

3026
02:38:54,679 --> 02:38:52,770
known types of aerial vehicles and of

3027
02:38:59,330 --> 02:38:54,689
course this right here was a letter

3028
02:39:01,280 --> 02:38:59,340
being typed up December 2nd 1952 and it

3029
02:39:07,420 --> 02:39:01,290
has one attachment that one attachment

3030
02:39:11,210 --> 02:39:07,430
is a draft of the actual intelligence

3031
02:39:13,969 --> 02:39:11,220
directive the National Security Council

3032
02:39:17,120 --> 02:39:13,979
intelligence directive that they wanted

3033
02:39:22,910 --> 02:39:17,130
them to go ahead and make official by

3034
02:39:24,620 --> 02:39:22,920
being presented to the NFC and get the

3035
02:39:26,120 --> 02:39:24,630
entire intelligence community involved

3036
02:39:29,090 --> 02:39:26,130
of course they state well now let's wait

3037
02:39:32,780 --> 02:39:29,100
until this client this border Santa's

3038
02:39:34,219 --> 02:39:32,790
the Robertson panel so they go over some

3039
02:39:38,000 --> 02:39:34,229
of these words and make their

3040
02:39:41,150 --> 02:39:38,010
conclusions I suggest at this time when

3041
02:39:42,200 --> 02:39:41,160
the director of the National the when

3042
02:39:43,219 --> 02:39:42,210
the director of the Central Intelligence

3043
02:39:47,929 --> 02:39:43,229
Agency

3044
02:39:53,719 --> 02:39:47,939
breathe them he very carefully chose his

3045
02:39:57,920 --> 02:39:53,729
words making it clear downplay the UFOs

3046
02:40:00,889 --> 02:39:57,930
as being any tangible type objects under

3047
02:40:04,000 --> 02:40:00,899
intelligent control little alone they

3048
02:40:07,580 --> 02:40:04,010
might be of extraterrestrial origin and

3049
02:40:12,410 --> 02:40:07,590
being good little boys they did just

3050
02:40:14,570 --> 02:40:12,420
that and the intent of the panel wasn't

3051
02:40:20,570 --> 02:40:14,580
to provide any conclusions on ufos

3052
02:40:24,200 --> 02:40:20,580
whatsoever it was to be a jump board so

3053
02:40:27,469 --> 02:40:24,210
to speak to be the final factor in

3054
02:40:29,900 --> 02:40:27,479
blocking the National Security Agency or

3055
02:40:32,330 --> 02:40:29,910
the National Security Council from being

3056
02:40:35,660 --> 02:40:32,340
breathed officially I have to say

3057
02:40:38,389 --> 02:40:35,670
officially and blocking that National

3058
02:40:42,290 --> 02:40:38,399
Security Council intelligence director

3059
02:40:44,420 --> 02:40:42,300
from ever being issued because this way

3060
02:40:45,599 --> 02:40:44,430
if it was issued the entire intelligence

3061
02:40:47,849 --> 02:40:45,609
community

3062
02:40:50,099 --> 02:40:47,859
would be involved in the investigation

3063
02:40:53,340 --> 02:40:50,109
of UFOs they would have their own

3064
02:40:57,500 --> 02:40:53,350
protocols on how to do things they would

3065
02:41:01,860 --> 02:40:57,510
go ahead and compare notes and by mid

3066
02:41:04,590 --> 02:41:01,870
1953 hard supportable conclusions will

3067
02:41:10,679 --> 02:41:04,600
be coming out among those conclusions is

3068
02:41:13,080 --> 02:41:10,689
one UFOs are tangible objects they are

3069
02:41:18,870 --> 02:41:13,090
under intelligent control and they

3070
02:41:21,300 --> 02:41:18,880
exhibit a technology above and beyond

3071
02:41:23,940 --> 02:41:21,310
our present-day capabilities to

3072
02:41:27,480 --> 02:41:23,950
replicate we may understand some of the

3073
02:41:29,400 --> 02:41:27,490
principles and theory but we cannot go

3074
02:41:33,780 --> 02:41:29,410
ahead and make practical application as

3075
02:41:37,190 --> 02:41:33,790
of the state to in all probability these

3076
02:41:40,650 --> 02:41:37,200
objects originate from some other planet

3077
02:41:43,020 --> 02:41:40,660
maybe within our solar system are some

3078
02:41:45,900 --> 02:41:43,030
other planet within the universe and

3079
02:41:49,200 --> 02:41:45,910
some nearby lower system outside of our

3080
02:41:52,800 --> 02:41:49,210
own and that a major investigation

3081
02:41:57,120 --> 02:41:52,810
should be set up to determine what the

3082
02:42:01,139 --> 02:41:57,130
nature of these objects are and what

3083
02:42:04,710 --> 02:42:01,149
their purpose in being here is ie

3084
02:42:07,610 --> 02:42:04,720
are they a threat or are they friendly

3085
02:42:13,620 --> 02:42:07,620
and something that we could learn from

3086
02:42:18,420 --> 02:42:13,630
the the concern that Walter Smith had

3087
02:42:21,630 --> 02:42:18,430
the director of the CIA back then was it

3088
02:42:24,929 --> 02:42:21,640
was direct he did not he did not play

3089
02:42:25,830 --> 02:42:24,939
around with his words you know he wasn't

3090
02:42:30,570 --> 02:42:25,840
dancing

3091
02:42:34,910 --> 02:42:30,580
he very specifically instructed that the

3092
02:42:40,430 --> 02:42:34,920
CIA had to

3093
02:42:42,740 --> 02:42:40,440
get this intelligence reporting done the

3094
02:42:45,230 --> 02:42:42,750
the reports had to be solid he wanted

3095
02:42:47,750 --> 02:42:45,240
solid identification of everything that

3096
02:42:52,280 --> 02:42:47,760
was playing out in the skies and that

3097
02:42:56,390 --> 02:42:52,290
this was of the greatest concern of the

3098
02:42:58,910 --> 02:42:56,400
CIA and his his directives here are are

3099
02:43:04,070 --> 02:42:58,920
varied to the point I mean they're

3100
02:43:07,100 --> 02:43:04,080
direct Clifford very direct but it still

3101
02:43:09,470 --> 02:43:07,110
the God he has to play like you're only

3102
02:43:12,920 --> 02:43:09,480
taking this concern of this serious and

3103
02:43:15,261 --> 02:43:12,930
actually he is taking material but he

3104
02:43:20,570 --> 02:43:15,271
has and I don't know what those reasons

3105
02:43:23,780 --> 02:43:20,580
are but he has a direct reckoning to

3106
02:43:27,410 --> 02:43:23,790
keep the investigations of live and

3107
02:43:31,000 --> 02:43:27,420
active within the CIA with them being

3108
02:43:33,860 --> 02:43:31,010
the controller's of the information and

3109
02:43:36,290 --> 02:43:33,870
making the final call while directing

3110
02:43:40,330 --> 02:43:36,300
the other members of the intelligence

3111
02:43:42,801 --> 02:43:40,340
community to go ahead and make benign

3112
02:43:46,250 --> 02:43:42,811
conclusions that they know are totally

3113
02:43:48,470 --> 02:43:46,260
ridiculous Julia right so yes he is a

3114
02:43:50,720 --> 02:43:48,480
very direct he's saying oh my god we

3115
02:43:53,330 --> 02:43:50,730
really we need to get a handle on this

3116
02:43:54,970 --> 02:43:53,340
and we need but then they get all the

3117
02:43:58,100 --> 02:43:54,980
way up and this is all because of the

3118
02:44:01,040 --> 02:43:58,110
the efforts being made by the

3119
02:44:02,600 --> 02:44:01,050
intelligence advisory committee and he

3120
02:44:05,600 --> 02:44:02,610
can't go in and I'm ordering you to drop

3121
02:44:07,810 --> 02:44:05,610
this up if you can't do that so he has

3122
02:44:10,040 --> 02:44:07,820
to take it serious because remember our

3123
02:44:12,770 --> 02:44:10,050
way to the president of United States

3124
02:44:16,610 --> 02:44:12,780
they are taking it serious the president

3125
02:44:21,700 --> 02:44:16,620
wants answers so okay we're doing this

3126
02:44:25,700 --> 02:44:21,710
but it's all the way to the end of 1952

3127
02:44:27,590 --> 02:44:25,710
he's already done the draft of the

3128
02:44:31,100 --> 02:44:27,600
National Security Council intelligence

3129
02:44:33,440 --> 02:44:31,110
directive it's ready to be a soup oh my

3130
02:44:37,610 --> 02:44:33,450
god how do we stop this

3131
02:44:41,600 --> 02:44:37,620
so it's suggested to the AIC on the eye

3132
02:44:44,750 --> 02:44:41,610
of the IAC the intelligence advisory

3133
02:44:46,340 --> 02:44:44,760
committee look before we take this to

3134
02:44:49,269 --> 02:44:46,350
the National Security Council and

3135
02:44:52,639 --> 02:44:49,279
request that they issue that

3136
02:44:57,860 --> 02:44:52,649
what we should do is have the giant a

3137
02:45:01,730 --> 02:44:57,870
scientific panel to meet and based on

3138
02:45:04,040 --> 02:45:01,740
their findings we consider whether we're

3139
02:45:07,760 --> 02:45:04,050
going to bother the National Security

3140
02:45:08,360 --> 02:45:07,770
Council with this or not and that right

3141
02:45:11,630 --> 02:45:08,370
there

3142
02:45:13,910 --> 02:45:11,640
they blocked it they were the one that

3143
02:45:16,250 --> 02:45:13,920
went ahead and ignored all the experts

3144
02:45:18,830 --> 02:45:16,260
in the field and if you go over that

3145
02:45:20,660 --> 02:45:18,840
document please note that on some of the

3146
02:45:22,400 --> 02:45:20,670
case they didn't meet as a group of

3147
02:45:26,990 --> 02:45:22,410
people going over everything it was only

3148
02:45:29,269 --> 02:45:27,000
three days and the stuff they were going

3149
02:45:30,260 --> 02:45:29,279
over the people who were coming in to

3150
02:45:34,010 --> 02:45:30,270
breathe them

3151
02:45:38,559 --> 02:45:34,020
these people were Pro major Fernet

3152
02:45:41,750 --> 02:45:38,569
he was Pro on interplanetary spacecraft

3153
02:45:44,389 --> 02:45:41,760
you'll read in there where high-neck is

3154
02:45:46,790 --> 02:45:44,399
there but only as an observer you can't

3155
02:45:51,170 --> 02:45:46,800
ask questions he can't make statements

3156
02:45:57,219 --> 02:45:51,180
and until this document service actually

3157
02:46:02,990 --> 02:45:57,229
in December of 2000 the document ported

3158
02:46:05,480 --> 02:46:03,000
surface in December 2017 no one knew for

3159
02:46:09,280 --> 02:46:05,490
a fact that that was going around the

3160
02:46:12,500 --> 02:46:09,290
UFO field that high-neck was there and

3161
02:46:14,420 --> 02:46:12,510
yet he was there this that document

3162
02:46:17,240 --> 02:46:14,430
before this one makes that clear he was

3163
02:46:19,760 --> 02:46:17,250
there but only as an observer because

3164
02:46:22,370 --> 02:46:19,770
has he been permitted to talk he would

3165
02:46:24,920 --> 02:46:22,380
have made comments and suggestions that

3166
02:46:26,300 --> 02:46:24,930
would have been detrimental to what the

3167
02:46:29,900 --> 02:46:26,310
director of the Central Intelligence

3168
02:46:34,160 --> 02:46:29,910
Agency was trying to accomplish and that

3169
02:46:39,500 --> 02:46:34,170
was no matter what it took they had to

3170
02:46:42,099 --> 02:46:39,510
kill the efforts to try to get the

3171
02:46:45,380 --> 02:46:42,109
National Security Council the issue

3172
02:46:48,950 --> 02:46:45,390
officially the intelligence directive

3173
02:46:52,280 --> 02:46:48,960
now that being said was the National

3174
02:46:54,920 --> 02:46:52,290
Security Council advised members of the

3175
02:46:59,630 --> 02:46:54,930
National Security Council was fully

3176
02:47:01,700 --> 02:46:59,640
aware that some UFOs were interplanetary

3177
02:47:06,650 --> 02:47:01,710
origin they were

3178
02:47:09,980 --> 02:47:06,660
also fully aware of the beatings that we

3179
02:47:14,330 --> 02:47:09,990
had with our visitors and those meetings

3180
02:47:18,640 --> 02:47:14,340
were necessary to ensure that we

3181
02:47:23,630 --> 02:47:18,650
children did not destroy ourselves by

3182
02:47:27,680 --> 02:47:23,640
misidentifying UFOs as incoming ICBM our

3183
02:47:31,010 --> 02:47:27,690
bombers from the former Soviet state our

3184
02:47:32,300 --> 02:47:31,020
visitors knew this which is why they

3185
02:47:35,750 --> 02:47:32,310
went ahead and opened up the

3186
02:47:38,240 --> 02:47:35,760
conversation and they were the ones that

3187
02:47:44,060 --> 02:47:38,250
determine where we would meet and how

3188
02:47:46,219 --> 02:47:44,070
why would meet how close you know when

3189
02:47:50,719 --> 02:47:46,229
we consider what we went through since

3190
02:47:54,080 --> 02:47:50,729
December of 2017 through today with the

3191
02:47:56,210 --> 02:47:54,090
way that the press was finally covering

3192
02:47:57,980 --> 02:47:56,220
this but like you said and I've said

3193
02:48:01,010 --> 02:47:57,990
this many times Clifford

3194
02:48:03,950 --> 02:48:01,020
they took their foot off the gas you

3195
02:48:07,910 --> 02:48:03,960
know but it was covered you know I was

3196
02:48:12,410 --> 02:48:07,920
very happy about that but it just seems

3197
02:48:15,469 --> 02:48:12,420
that the the momentum has stalled how

3198
02:48:20,270 --> 02:48:15,479
close were we to something just as

3199
02:48:22,540 --> 02:48:20,280
extraordinary going down back in 1952 we

3200
02:48:27,650 --> 02:48:22,550
minutes away

3201
02:48:31,700 --> 02:48:27,660
we will I'm gonna say just several hours

3202
02:48:35,240 --> 02:48:31,710
away because it was you know at the

3203
02:48:36,710 --> 02:48:35,250
final hour that this is already I mean

3204
02:48:39,050 --> 02:48:36,720
think what's so hard to make the draft

3205
02:48:42,110 --> 02:48:39,060
and of course the cover letter on there

3206
02:48:45,100 --> 02:48:42,120
making it clear which is contrary to

3207
02:48:48,500 --> 02:48:45,110
what the Robertson panel came out with

3208
02:48:50,390 --> 02:48:48,510
that the sheer nature of some of these

3209
02:48:52,760 --> 02:48:50,400
sightings the altitude that they were at

3210
02:48:57,310 --> 02:48:52,770
the maneuvers they were doing that they

3211
02:49:00,050 --> 02:48:57,320
were they cannot be explained away by

3212
02:49:03,100 --> 02:49:00,060
natural phenomena or weather phenomena

3213
02:49:08,570 --> 02:49:03,110
they could not be explained away by any

3214
02:49:11,660 --> 02:49:08,580
known vehicle in short these were

3215
02:49:14,690 --> 02:49:11,670
critical that were doing extraordinary

3216
02:49:15,560 --> 02:49:14,700
things that we were not capable of doing

3217
02:49:16,791 --> 02:49:15,570
Narwhal

3218
02:49:20,390 --> 02:49:16,801
any other nation on the face of the

3219
02:49:22,341 --> 02:49:20,400
planet capable clean that's why they

3220
02:49:25,270 --> 02:49:22,351
wanted to have that National Security

3221
02:49:31,570 --> 02:49:25,280
Council and telemental directive issued

3222
02:49:35,330 --> 02:49:31,580
now move on to December 2017 once again

3223
02:49:37,820 --> 02:49:35,340
the same thing we want to go ahead if we

3224
02:49:39,440 --> 02:49:37,830
want to investigate these objects that

3225
02:49:43,850 --> 02:49:39,450
are flying around only we're calling

3226
02:49:46,490 --> 02:49:43,860
them unconventional advanced aircraft

3227
02:49:48,291 --> 02:49:46,500
and we're gathering all the data we're

3228
02:49:52,341 --> 02:49:48,301
telling the people let's see these

3229
02:49:55,430 --> 02:49:52,351
things you know disregard everything you

3230
02:49:58,280 --> 02:49:55,440
believe and no report exactly what you

3231
02:50:00,110 --> 02:49:58,290
are seeing get as much as technical data

3232
02:50:03,051 --> 02:50:00,120
as possible and take film footage of

3233
02:50:06,200 --> 02:50:03,061
them take it if you can take to Liberty

3234
02:50:10,070 --> 02:50:06,210
our telemetry readings of them take it

3235
02:50:13,940 --> 02:50:10,080
if you can get radar sightings along

3236
02:50:16,360 --> 02:50:13,950
with the telemetry readings do it but

3237
02:50:19,610 --> 02:50:16,370
then when the story breaks in the news

3238
02:50:23,751 --> 02:50:19,620
we downplay it and we've always thought

3239
02:50:26,660 --> 02:50:23,761
that in 2012 no we didn't moon dust and

3240
02:50:30,560 --> 02:50:26,670
blue fly those names became exposed in

3241
02:50:33,470 --> 02:50:30,570
1985 by the virtue of the those code

3242
02:50:35,690 --> 02:50:33,480
names being exposed they change the

3243
02:50:39,711 --> 02:50:35,700
names but the program still go on why

3244
02:50:41,780 --> 02:50:39,721
UFOs haven't gone away mm-hmm right now

3245
02:50:44,330 --> 02:50:41,790
people see you of those but they don't

3246
02:50:46,310 --> 02:50:44,340
bother to report them they you know

3247
02:50:49,251 --> 02:50:46,320
mentally tell them it does okay this is

3248
02:50:51,110 --> 02:50:49,261
probably some type of new craft or a

3249
02:50:54,711 --> 02:50:51,120
spacecraft of the u.s. or some other

3250
02:50:58,190 --> 02:50:54,721
government unless it is an event of high

3251
02:51:00,560 --> 02:50:58,200
strangeness it goes unreported and then

3252
02:51:05,030 --> 02:51:00,570
when it is reported it's normally only

3253
02:51:06,711 --> 02:51:05,040
local but you better believe when the

3254
02:51:08,240 --> 02:51:06,721
news comes out with something and we

3255
02:51:12,080 --> 02:51:08,250
know that something may have happened

3256
02:51:15,200 --> 02:51:12,090
there then we send out the whole brush

3257
02:51:18,470 --> 02:51:15,210
man say we send people into that area

3258
02:51:20,720 --> 02:51:18,480
together open intelligence as we call it

3259
02:51:23,270 --> 02:51:20,730
on the siding that occurred there and

3260
02:51:25,100 --> 02:51:23,280
the people think well gee the government

3261
02:51:27,501 --> 02:51:25,110
didn't investigate this yes they did

3262
02:51:29,410 --> 02:51:27,511
you had strangers that came into your

3263
02:51:32,841 --> 02:51:29,420
town that were selling

3264
02:51:35,960 --> 02:51:32,851
our toilet articles are frozen food

3265
02:51:37,610 --> 02:51:35,970
whatever but they were all by the way we

3266
02:51:40,761 --> 02:51:37,620
heard you had a UFO sighting here the

3267
02:51:42,290 --> 02:51:40,771
other day what about that and detect

3268
02:51:48,170 --> 02:51:42,300
that's not falling on deaf ears

3269
02:51:51,950 --> 02:51:48,180
we still investigate UFOs and we have

3270
02:51:54,740 --> 02:51:51,960
UFOs in space the whole situation is the

3271
02:51:56,870 --> 02:51:54,750
term past walkers we may have changed it

3272
02:52:01,310 --> 02:51:56,880
now but that was an affectionate term

3273
02:52:04,970 --> 02:52:01,320
that we use for solid tangible objects

3274
02:52:08,270 --> 02:52:04,980
that was lying between a spacecraft

3275
02:52:13,400 --> 02:52:08,280
reconnaissance spacecraft normally above

3276
02:52:15,591 --> 02:52:13,410
the earth and taking photographs down on

3277
02:52:18,080 --> 02:52:15,601
the earth the object would fly in there

3278
02:52:21,410 --> 02:52:18,090
and I can't remember what year it was

3279
02:52:25,190 --> 02:52:21,420
but they got a hundred almost 200

3280
02:52:27,730 --> 02:52:25,200
sightings 87 of the events that were

3281
02:52:31,910 --> 02:52:27,740
recorded there of the past walkers

3282
02:52:36,310 --> 02:52:31,920
remained unexplained today we have

3283
02:52:38,540 --> 02:52:36,320
fighters that go and try to intercept

3284
02:52:42,560 --> 02:52:38,550
unidentified aircraft are uncorrelated

3285
02:52:44,390 --> 02:52:42,570
target these fighters go ahead sometimes

3286
02:52:45,950 --> 02:52:44,400
they take guns camera for each of them

3287
02:52:48,400 --> 02:52:45,960
that's never reported

3288
02:52:53,420 --> 02:52:48,410
none of that separate that sweep it

3289
02:52:57,261 --> 02:52:53,430
reduced to a form called form 61 it's

3290
02:52:58,910 --> 02:52:57,271
filed it's a classified secret copies

3291
02:53:04,070 --> 02:52:58,920
are made just and be sent to other

3292
02:53:07,910 --> 02:53:04,080
agencies that form has held Verity used

3293
02:53:10,790 --> 02:53:07,920
to be the Air Defense Command NORAD that

3294
02:53:13,430 --> 02:53:10,800
was filed for six months at the end of

3295
02:53:16,880 --> 02:53:13,440
six months it was systematically

3296
02:53:18,890 --> 02:53:16,890
destroyed now did the report go away

3297
02:53:21,890 --> 02:53:18,900
because after the in six months that

3298
02:53:24,410 --> 02:53:21,900
that form was destroyed no the data was

3299
02:53:27,290 --> 02:53:24,420
already sent to the agencies that have

3300
02:53:31,160 --> 02:53:27,300
active interest in these sightings and

3301
02:53:34,250 --> 02:53:31,170
they did their part and they sent their

3302
02:53:38,120 --> 02:53:34,260
raw material to the Office of Scientific

3303
02:53:41,210 --> 02:53:38,130
intelligence at the CIA and they made a

3304
02:53:42,441 --> 02:53:41,220
finalized intelligence product and that

3305
02:53:45,831 --> 02:53:42,451
went to a review

3306
02:53:47,871 --> 02:53:45,841
choice people very high in the

3307
02:53:54,741 --> 02:53:47,881
government that aren't necessarily

3308
02:53:56,720 --> 02:53:54,751
elected official the all first off or

3309
02:53:58,401 --> 02:53:56,730
last off I want to thank you for taking

3310
02:54:01,071 --> 02:53:58,411
the time tonight we did two and a half

3311
02:54:03,441 --> 02:54:01,081
hours of document coverage that's a lot

3312
02:54:06,680 --> 02:54:03,451
of conversation Clifford so I want to

3313
02:54:08,061 --> 02:54:06,690
thank you in advance for that before we

3314
02:54:09,951 --> 02:54:08,071
start to run out of time here I've only

3315
02:54:12,711 --> 02:54:09,961
got two minutes I want to say this I'm

3316
02:54:15,591 --> 02:54:12,721
gonna do this quick as possible you're

3317
02:54:19,311 --> 02:54:15,601
exactly right we had a mass sighting

3318
02:54:21,771 --> 02:54:19,321
four years ago out in Joshua Tree couple

3319
02:54:24,081 --> 02:54:21,781
of hundred witnesses more than that

3320
02:54:26,411 --> 02:54:24,091
behind me but let's just say there was a

3321
02:54:30,831 --> 02:54:26,421
couple other people standing around me a

3322
02:54:32,930 --> 02:54:30,841
video documentation and and so forth

3323
02:54:37,041 --> 02:54:32,940
multiple witnesses I turned around and

3324
02:54:40,481 --> 02:54:37,051
went on coast-to-coast prime time Friday

3325
02:54:43,461 --> 02:54:40,491
night and spent a half an hour

3326
02:54:46,131 --> 02:54:43,471
discussing the entire I might have

3327
02:54:48,401 --> 02:54:46,141
outdone two segments the entire sighting

3328
02:54:52,821 --> 02:54:48,411
when and where how it was done a

3329
02:54:56,121 --> 02:54:52,831
national radio I thought that I would

3330
02:54:59,511 --> 02:54:56,131
have been contacted by the media nobody

3331
02:55:01,521 --> 02:54:59,521
and I had told Rita as we were walking

3332
02:55:03,561 --> 02:55:01,531
away that night from that sighting I

3333
02:55:06,441 --> 02:55:03,571
said you know if we had Wolf Blitzer up

3334
02:55:08,871 --> 02:55:06,451
here right Anderson Cooper Bill O'Reilly

3335
02:55:11,661 --> 02:55:08,881
when he was still employed would would

3336
02:55:14,871 --> 02:55:11,671
they after seeing this would they go on

3337
02:55:15,771 --> 02:55:14,881
and and report this and we both said no

3338
02:55:20,061 --> 02:55:15,781
they wouldn't

3339
02:55:23,421 --> 02:55:20,071
and and so that's when I decided to go

3340
02:55:25,791 --> 02:55:23,431
on coast-to-coast and absolutely report

3341
02:55:27,351 --> 02:55:25,801
this out there of for supportive there

3342
02:55:30,801 --> 02:55:27,361
all those other hundreds of witnesses

3343
02:55:34,761 --> 02:55:30,811
that saw this right you know and and to

3344
02:55:38,271 --> 02:55:34,771
back up everything not one member of the

3345
02:55:40,251 --> 02:55:38,281
media contacted me and that that that

3346
02:55:42,891 --> 02:55:40,261
just goes to show you where where it's

3347
02:55:45,220 --> 02:55:42,901
really at and and you're absolutely

3348
02:55:49,340 --> 02:55:45,230
right I couldn't agree with you more and

3349
02:55:53,000 --> 02:55:49,350
that's what I went through Clifford

3350
02:55:57,350 --> 02:55:53,010
oh I know and I'll tell you and don't

3351
02:55:59,570 --> 02:55:57,360
get mad at me for saying this sir but we

3352
02:56:01,580 --> 02:55:59,580
in the UFO field to be our own worst

3353
02:56:04,730 --> 02:56:01,590
enemies because a lot of times for

3354
02:56:05,960 --> 02:56:04,740
sensationalism they'll go ahead and they

3355
02:56:09,050 --> 02:56:05,970
will report things if they know

3356
02:56:10,730 --> 02:56:09,060
absolutely isn't true yet but the truth

3357
02:56:12,320 --> 02:56:10,740
starts to come out and what you're

3358
02:56:17,540 --> 02:56:12,330
talking about I remember that incident

3359
02:56:20,030 --> 02:56:17,550
it was 100% crew and I personally

3360
02:56:22,460 --> 02:56:20,040
believe that you reported very good on

3361
02:56:24,530 --> 02:56:22,470
it and what you were saying was 100%

3362
02:56:26,840 --> 02:56:24,540
accurate and you know the whole

3363
02:56:32,060 --> 02:56:26,850
situation is had it not been for the

3364
02:56:35,360 --> 02:56:32,070
giggle factor and the media being afraid

3365
02:56:37,280 --> 02:56:35,370
of people laughing at him or not taking

3366
02:56:38,570 --> 02:56:37,290
them serious right that could have been

3367
02:56:41,180 --> 02:56:38,580
a big breaking point

3368
02:56:43,160 --> 02:56:41,190
for UFO disclosure although yes yeah I

3369
02:56:45,920 --> 02:56:43,170
thought it was I thought there's this is

3370
02:56:48,620 --> 02:56:45,930
too extraordinary you know and we've got

3371
02:56:50,960 --> 02:56:48,630
multiple cameras and and hundreds of

3372
02:56:52,330 --> 02:56:50,970
witnesses and you know it's all right

3373
02:56:55,160 --> 02:56:52,340
here here we go

3374
02:56:55,880 --> 02:56:55,170
nothing you could hear a pin drop from

3375
02:56:58,250 --> 02:56:55,890
the media

3376
02:57:01,730 --> 02:56:58,260
Clifford keep doing what you're doing my

3377
02:57:03,230 --> 02:57:01,740
man this is gonna get out and we're

3378
02:57:05,570 --> 02:57:03,240
gonna put everything out again tomorrow

3379
02:57:06,710 --> 02:57:05,580
of course is live radio right now but

3380
02:57:09,020 --> 02:57:06,720
I'm going to get all of these documents

3381
02:57:11,720 --> 02:57:09,030
out through social media tomorrow

3382
02:57:14,900 --> 02:57:11,730
and we're gonna we're gonna make sure

3383
02:57:17,060 --> 02:57:14,910
that this gets not only seen but heard

3384
02:57:18,860 --> 02:57:17,070
thank you so much for everything that

3385
02:57:20,150 --> 02:57:18,870
you anyone comes to mind or won't and

3386
02:57:22,790 --> 02:57:20,160
copies of these documents

3387
02:57:25,011 --> 02:57:22,800
I won't gladly give them to somebody

3388
02:57:27,560 --> 02:57:25,021
also somebody's gonna be taking some

3389
02:57:30,440 --> 02:57:27,570
pictures of me and you'll understand

3390
02:57:32,360 --> 02:57:30,450
when you get them and you know you know

3391
02:57:34,400 --> 02:57:32,370
who's sending them to you feel free to

3392
02:57:35,511 --> 02:57:34,410
go ahead and publish those and I had a

3393
02:57:38,870 --> 02:57:35,521
colonel in the United States Air Force

3394
02:57:41,990 --> 02:57:38,880
or identica thank you so much Clifford I

3395
02:57:43,580 --> 02:57:42,000
look forward to it okay and I'll be in

3396
02:57:46,670 --> 02:57:43,590
touch with you tomorrow but until then

3397
02:57:48,140 --> 02:57:46,680
be safe and whoever is up poking around

3398
02:57:53,240 --> 02:57:48,150
your house maybe they wanted some

3399
02:57:55,490 --> 02:57:53,250
documents you never know okay I'll talk

3400
02:57:57,740 --> 02:57:55,500
to you Clifford have a great safe rest

3401
02:58:00,080 --> 02:57:57,750
of your evening my friend thank you

3402
02:58:03,650 --> 02:58:00,090
third thing to you and to your listeners

3403
02:58:06,711 --> 02:58:03,660
and your staff there good night and God

3404
02:58:10,820 --> 02:58:06,721
right back at you Clifford stone the

3405
02:58:12,171 --> 02:58:10,830
absolute very best and we'll have

3406
02:58:13,970 --> 02:58:12,181
everything up tomorrow and I'll put

3407
02:58:17,091 --> 02:58:13,980
together some stuff with all of these

3408
02:58:19,220 --> 02:58:17,101
documents for all of you that it'll make

3409
02:58:20,690 --> 02:58:19,230
it easy for you to chase down fade to

3410
02:58:22,791 --> 02:58:20,700
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3411
02:58:24,621 --> 02:58:22,801
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3413
02:58:29,810 --> 02:58:27,290
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3414
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3415
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3416
02:58:39,410 --> 02:58:35,101
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3417
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02:58:44,270 --> 02:58:42,750
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3419
02:58:44,900 --> 02:58:44,280
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3420
02:58:47,091 --> 02:58:44,910
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3421
02:58:48,680 --> 02:58:47,101
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3422
02:58:51,081 --> 02:58:48,690
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3423
02:58:53,081 --> 02:58:51,091
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3425
02:58:59,780 --> 02:58:56,940
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3426
02:59:02,390 --> 02:58:59,790
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3427
02:59:06,890 --> 02:59:02,400
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3428
02:59:16,050 --> 02:59:06,900
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